Thanks Marc,
I’ll respond to this one as I want to drive out conspiracy theories from the beginning. There is no plot to exclude certain parties by having too many meetings. Let’s all keep a positive tone going forward and assume the best of each.
We have a lot of work to do so our mindset matters.
Best,
Paul
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All,
Noting Paul’s comments that call cadence and duration will be addressed early and not expecting a response from him, I will nevertheless plant my flag in the sand on this topic. I know this is an important
topic but what person who has a full time job and/or a family has 4 hours per week to volunteer? That is SubPro territory and virtually guarantees that except for a select few people that will dominate the PDP, most cannot effectively participate, so I would
strongly recommend against this unless that is the point. Even two hours per week is challenging for many. I would also note that, at least in the US, Monday tends to be the busiest day of the week and so would recommend avoiding it for a call, especially
if the calls will be every week and 2 hours. I look forward to the discussion on this.
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All,
I think, from experience and at least in the beginning, 1 call per week is enough, and as feedback to Stakeholder Groups may be required, as previously mentioned, I propose to do it early in the week (Monday?).
On the other hand, we can already now agree on a second day, which I would suggest we put late in the week (Thursday?).
Timings of course to be doodled.
I also think 120 minutes per call are not necessary, at least in the beginning, but would suggest we keep (scheduling) 120 minutes, as we can always knock off early.
My reasoning behind this is that this way we can block out our schedule already in advance and the Chairs are then free schedule as many calls as required, of the durations required.
As far as Vice Chairs go, my suggestion is they should be in (widely) different time zones from the chair and from each other (if more than one).
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On Feb 18, 2026 at 06:13 +0200, Paul McGrady via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org>, wrote:
Thanks Farzi.
All, we have had several emails along the same theme – do we really need this many meetings? As noted in my prior responses, meeting cadence will be one of the early topics of discussion. In the meantime, I encourage you all to respond to the doodle poll. If we end up with fewer meetings after we look at the work plan, deadlines, etc., great, but I don’t want anyone to get left behind at this early stage because their availability (or unavailability) was not baked into the poll response.
If you sent a similar email to Farzi’s and several others I responded to, and I don’t respond, please don’t take it personally.
Best,
Paul
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Dear all and our interim? chair,
Can we please first have a conversation on meeting regularity, time table, deadline etc and agree on a few things before taking the Doodle Poll for meeting four hours weekly? I just don't know where this 4 hour a week meeting came from and why...
Farzaneh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 2:35 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Feodora.
It was never discussed with us that we need to have two weekly meetings of two hours each, and the start date is clear but there is no end date. Who picked that duration? We need to as a group come up with a timeline and deliverables and see how many meetings we need to have to meet that deadline. For some of us it's impossible to have two 120 minute meetings a week.
Farzaneh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 1:00 PM Feodora Hamza via Gnso-dnsabuse-pdp <gnso-dnsabuse-pdp@icann.org> wrote:
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Dear DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 Working Group members,
Welcome to the Working Group (WG) tasked with developing policy to advance DNS Abuse mitigation! Today, I received the message from Council Leadership that the SSC has reached its preliminary decision, recommending me as the Chair for the DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 WG, though the formal confirmation by Council is to be on 11 March. To ensure smooth progress and a timely start of the PDP work, I was allowed, pending formal confirmation, to already start preparing the WG for ICANN85, supported by the GNSO Support Staff (Feodora Hamza, John Emery, Steve Chan). We look forward to working with all of you on this PDP.
Our first meeting will be at ICANN85 in person on Saturday, 07 March, at 15:00-16:00 (local time). We look forward to seeing those attending in-person there! The WG will have four sessions during ICANN85 taking place as follows:
- Kick-off Meeting: Saturday, 07 March at 15:00 – 16:00 (local time)
- Session 2: Saturday, 07 March at 16:30 to 17:30 (local time)
- Session 3: Monday, 09 March at 13:15 to 14:30 (local time)
- Session 4: Monday, 09 March at 15:00 – 16:00 (local time)
- Please see the Sched schedule for more information: https://icann85.sched.com/
Shortly after this Email, you will receive an email to complete a Doodle poll to help us schedule two weekly 120-minute meetings for the week of 23 March onwards. Please complete the Doodle poll by Tuesday, 03 March 2026, as requested via email. Any suggestions for future meeting times/duration can be discussed during Kick-off.
In addition, I would like to open a Call for Volunteers for the Vice Chair position to this WG prior to the Kick-off Meeting. Please respond to this email if you would like to volunteer, or if you would like to nominate someone by the end of this month, Friday, 27 February. We will seek to finalize the Vice Chair role by the Kick-off meeting.
In advance of our first meeting, I would like to share a few notes to help ensure that we can get through all of the start-up tasks for the WG in a timely manner.
First, a wiki has been established to provide background and present the current members of the team, while also supporting this Team in its future endeavors. More background information and relevant materials can also be found on the GNSO Activities website. Please take the time to begin familiarizing yourself with the following materials in preparation for our first meeting:
· Consensus Playbook [gnso.icann.org]
· GNSO Working Group Guidelines [gnso.icann.org] & PDP Manual [gnso.icann.org]
Once you have completed your document review, please confirm here. The goal of this exercise is to ensure that everyone is starting off on the same page with the same foundation of information, which will enable us to be a more effective team.
In addition, a document library is included on the WG workspace (see https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAMP1/pages/766312449/4.+Background+Documents ). An understanding of these documents and their contents will help to ensure your full and productive participation in WG deliberations. More materials will be added to this space as the PDP kicks off.
The following items will be on the agenda for the first meeting(s):
- Introductions: As standard practice during the first meeting of a PDP WG, members will do a round of verbal introductions so we can get to know each other. Please be prepared to speak briefly (no more than one minute) about your relevant experience/background and any objectives you have for participating.
- Leadership Team and Liaison Roles: As mentioned above, we have an opportunity to select one Vice Chair for this WG, but we are not required to do so. If and when we have a volunteer for the Vice Chair position through the mailing list, we will confirm by non-objection during this time. If none, we would suggest that we proceed without a Vice Chair and revisit the topic if necessary in the future. If more than one person volunteers for the role, the WG will decide by voting.
The GNSO Council is to appoint one Liaison who is accountable to the Council. The GNSO Council chose Jennifer Chung as Council Liaison for this PDP. This role will act as a part of the Leadership Team and be introduced during this time.
Other Liaison roles, such as Org Liaisons and the Board Liaison, will be introduced if and when we have confirmation by this time.
- Charter: It is required for everyone to read through the Working Group Charter and be familiar with its content before the first call. We will go over some key points and answer any questions that members have.
While we go over the Charter during our first meeting, we’ll talk about some of the logistical elements of how we will work, including the decision-making process for this WG. We’ll also review what is expected of those participating in this WG. From the outset, I would like to emphasize the importance of working towards developing consensus recommendations, which means working constructively and collaboratively to find outcomes that members can ultimately accept. To this end, the Consensus Playbook [gnso.icann.org] is among the resources that you are being asked to read by the second meeting. We’ll be drawing on the methods and techniques in the playbook throughout the life of the PDP, so everyone should be familiar with it.
- Project/Work Plan: On our first call, we will have an opportunity to speak a about the Project Plan/Work Plan and what can be expected in our first weeks of work on this PDP. As a preview, the initial areas of focus will be:
- High-level review of the topic within the Charter
- Requesting input from SO/AC/SG/Cs on the topic
- Deliver Project Plan to the GNSO Council
- Meeting Frequency and Schedule: Again coming back to housekeeping issues, we’ll have an opportunity to discuss the meeting frequency and the proposed day/time of the calls, if necessary.
- GPI/HR Framework: The WG is expected to consider any recommendations that may have potential impact on Global Public Interest (GPI) and/or Human Rights (HR). A high-level overview will be provided on what needs to be considered during the PDP and how this will be reflected into the WG’s Work Plan.
Welcome again to the DNS Abuse Mitigation PDP1 WG, and the GNSO Support Staff and I look forward to working with you all!
Please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any questions or concerns.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Paul Mcgrady
Preliminary Chair, DNSAM PDP1
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