Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] [Ext] RE: Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. Best, On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members, I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. 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Greg, Thanks for getting the short extension. I completely missed the 'deadline' suggested by Steve, so, appreciated the extra time to pop in some comments in the G-doc. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 02:52, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Greg,
In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement.
More importantly, I hope you feel better soon.
Best,
Steve
*From: *"DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com> *Date: *Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM *To: *Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>, "McGrady, Paul D." < PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, " gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
Hi Steve,
My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request.
Thanks,
Greg
*From:* gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Steve Chan *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM *To:* McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Justine Chew < justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
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Hello all,
Following up on the message below, a couple of things.
- Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a *deadline of 25 February 2022 *for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. - As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week *after* ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs.
We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis.
Best,
Marika & Steve
*From: *gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Date: *Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM *To: *"McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>, Justine Chew < justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" < gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
Dear small team members,
Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues.
You can see the four draft messages here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...>
On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email.
I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later.
Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :)
Best,
Marika & Steve
*From: *gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> *Date: *Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM *To: *Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, " gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
Thanks Justine!
Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! J
Best,
Paul
*From:* gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Justine Chew *Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM *To:* gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org *Cc:* gnso-secs@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
[EXTERNAL MESSAGE]
+1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering.
Kind regards, Justine
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
All,
As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks.
Best,
On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:
Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members,
I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration.
Best,
Paul
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Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. From: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM To: DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. 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Hi all, I like the letters. Thanks for drafting them. As I mentioned during our last call, I suggest to reach out to eco’s topDNS initiative also, but as you know I am conflicted due to my involvement in that. However, we might be able to offer some insights. I leave it up to the group to add topDNS to the list and use the letter identical to the DNSAI. All the best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:01 schrieb DiBiase, Gregory via gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>>: Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. From: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM To: DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. Best, On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members, I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. 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I am in favor of reaching out to topDNS. Now that I think about it, it would also be good to reach out to IN&J's Domains & Jurisdiction Program. The contact for that is Elizabeth Behsudi. Best, On 02/28/2022 16:26, Thomas Rickert | rickert.law wrote:
Hi all, I like the letters. Thanks for drafting them.
As I mentioned during our last call, I suggest to reach out to eco’s topDNS initiative also, but as you know I am conflicted due to my involvement in that. However, we might be able to offer some insights. I leave it up to the group to add topDNS to the list and use the letter identical to the DNSAI.
All the best, Thomas
Am 28.02.2022 um 20:01 schrieb DiBiase, Gregory via gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>:
Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. *From:*Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Sent:*Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM *To:*DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>;gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org *Subject:*RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
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Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve *From:*"DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com> *Date:*Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM *To:*Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Subject:*[Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28^th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg *From:*gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>*On Behalf Of*Steve Chan *Sent:*Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM *To:*McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>;gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org *Subject:*RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team
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Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things.
* Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a*deadline of 25 February 2022*for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week_after_ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs.
We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve *From:*gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> *Date:*Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM *To:*"McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve *From:*gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> *Date:*Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM *To:*Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> *Cc:*"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! J Best, Paul *From:*gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>*On Behalf Of*Justine Chew *Sent:*Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM *To:*gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org *Cc:*gnso-secs@icann.org *Subject:*Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering.
Kind regards, Justine
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
All,
As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks.
Best,
On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:
Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members, I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Paul
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Sure. That makes sense. Best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:58 schrieb Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>>: I am in favor of reaching out to topDNS. Now that I think about it, it would also be good to reach out to IN&J's Domains & Jurisdiction Program. The contact for that is Elizabeth Behsudi. Best, On 02/28/2022 16:26, Thomas Rickert | rickert.law wrote: Hi all, I like the letters. Thanks for drafting them. As I mentioned during our last call, I suggest to reach out to eco’s topDNS initiative also, but as you know I am conflicted due to my involvement in that. However, we might be able to offer some insights. I leave it up to the group to add topDNS to the list and use the letter identical to the DNSAI. All the best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:01 schrieb DiBiase, Gregory via gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>>: Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. From: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM To: DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. Best, On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members, I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. 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Hi All, Thanks for the input and questions directly in the document. Justine had a couple of questions/suggestions that I’ve tried to address in the document and look forward to her reviewing and response. Mark had suggested to cut some text that is perhaps not needed for the SSAC in particular and Greg had suggested to keep. I’m thinking that there is no harm to maintain a short introductory paragraph, as in the event the SSAC finds it less than helpful, they can just skim or ignore? I would draw your attention in particular to an open question and one that Justine called out in particular: what is a reasonable amount of time to allow for the various groups to respond? I would think that approximately 2-3 weeks should be adequate, taking into account that the period may overlap with ICANN73 (which might provide for a great opportunity to discuss the questions)? Lastly, staff will leave it up to you all of course to determine which groups should be directly reached out to. As we consider adding additional groups though, it makes me wonder whether or not we are setting the Council up for potential criticism (e.g., why did that group receive a letter but now us). Without commenting about adding in eco’s or IN&J’s initiatives in particular, maybe we could consider adding a short blurb to each letter, inviting each group to feel free to reach out to other interested groups that might be able to provide input to the Council? That all said, the central question this group is seeking to understand is what DNS abuse issues, if any, should be specifically addressed by policy development. So, while many groups have plenty of wisdom on the broader topic of DNS abuse, I would think the question about who the Council should contact should be looked at through the lens of answering that central question? Best, Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Thomas Rickert | rickert.law" <thomas@rickert.law> Date: Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:05 PM To: Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] [Ext] RE: Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Sure. That makes sense. Best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:58 schrieb Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>>: I am in favor of reaching out to topDNS. Now that I think about it, it would also be good to reach out to IN&J's Domains & Jurisdiction Program. The contact for that is Elizabeth Behsudi. Best, On 02/28/2022 16:26, Thomas Rickert | rickert.law wrote: Hi all, I like the letters. Thanks for drafting them. As I mentioned during our last call, I suggest to reach out to eco’s topDNS initiative also, but as you know I am conflicted due to my involvement in that. However, we might be able to offer some insights. I leave it up to the group to add topDNS to the list and use the letter identical to the DNSAI. All the best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:01 schrieb DiBiase, Gregory via gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>>: Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. From: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM To: DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. 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Thanks Steve. All, some good suggestions in here by Steve. For what it’s worth, the outreach seems to me to be properly focused on Not-GNSO members (they have a mechanism to participate via this Small Team and ultimately Council). Maybe we can do a hybrid – we send the letters to ALAC, SSAC, etc. but open the door for any Small Team member that has a specific group or organization they want to reach out to. In terms of timeframes, I recommend 2 weeks with a 1 week extension for when the inevitable extension requests roll in. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady, Jr. Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. Wacker Drive, Suite 2800 Chicago, Illinois 60601-3713 Download vCard<http://www.taftlaw.com/vcard/PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> taftlaw.com<http://www.taftlaw.com> From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 7:16 PM To: Thomas Rickert | rickert.law <thomas@rickert.law>; Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> Cc: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] [Ext] RE: Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] Hi All, Thanks for the input and questions directly in the document. Justine had a couple of questions/suggestions that I’ve tried to address in the document and look forward to her reviewing and response. Mark had suggested to cut some text that is perhaps not needed for the SSAC in particular and Greg had suggested to keep. I’m thinking that there is no harm to maintain a short introductory paragraph, as in the event the SSAC finds it less than helpful, they can just skim or ignore? I would draw your attention in particular to an open question and one that Justine called out in particular: what is a reasonable amount of time to allow for the various groups to respond? I would think that approximately 2-3 weeks should be adequate, taking into account that the period may overlap with ICANN73 (which might provide for a great opportunity to discuss the questions)? Lastly, staff will leave it up to you all of course to determine which groups should be directly reached out to. As we consider adding additional groups though, it makes me wonder whether or not we are setting the Council up for potential criticism (e.g., why did that group receive a letter but now us). Without commenting about adding in eco’s or IN&J’s initiatives in particular, maybe we could consider adding a short blurb to each letter, inviting each group to feel free to reach out to other interested groups that might be able to provide input to the Council? That all said, the central question this group is seeking to understand is what DNS abuse issues, if any, should be specifically addressed by policy development. So, while many groups have plenty of wisdom on the broader topic of DNS abuse, I would think the question about who the Council should contact should be looked at through the lens of answering that central question? Best, Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Thomas Rickert | rickert.law" <thomas@rickert.law<mailto:thomas@rickert.law>> Date: Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:05 PM To: Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Cc: "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] [Ext] RE: Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Sure. That makes sense. Best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:58 schrieb Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>>: I am in favor of reaching out to topDNS. Now that I think about it, it would also be good to reach out to IN&J's Domains & Jurisdiction Program. The contact for that is Elizabeth Behsudi. Best, On 02/28/2022 16:26, Thomas Rickert | rickert.law wrote: Hi all, I like the letters. Thanks for drafting them. As I mentioned during our last call, I suggest to reach out to eco’s topDNS initiative also, but as you know I am conflicted due to my involvement in that. However, we might be able to offer some insights. I leave it up to the group to add topDNS to the list and use the letter identical to the DNSAI. All the best, Thomas Am 28.02.2022 um 20:01 schrieb DiBiase, Gregory via gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>>: Well- I wasted your time for nothing. Questions look good! Thanks Steve. From: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:52 AM To: DiBiase, Gregory <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>>; McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Greg, In my capacity of having no authority over this group, I think this sounds reasonable! Hope this additional time allows others to also weigh in, even if it is just to note agreement. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon. Best, Steve From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com<mailto:dibiase@amazon.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2022 at 8:58 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Hi Steve, My apologies but I’m out sick today and won’t be able to review by EOD. Any way we can extend until Monday the 28th for comments? Sorry for the (very) late request. Thanks, Greg From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:15 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>; gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, Following up on the message below, a couple of things. * Reminder to please review the draft outreach messages staff shared last week. From our perspective at least, the text should be pretty straight forward and hopefully accomplish the goal of getting the community groups to consider what issues around DNS abuse are most appropriately mitigated via policy development, if any. Having seen no comments or objections yet, can we suggest a deadline of 25 February 2022 for this small team, after which we could take next steps: namely, share with the full Council for non-objection and then Council leadership send the outreach messages to the various groups. * As we await input from the groups, staff believes there is some useful discussion to be had within the small team. What makes sense to us is to have the small team consider the questions that it will be asking the community. With that in mind, we’re conjecturing that the timing is rather fortuitous. We’re planning to schedule a meeting for this group the week after ICANN73, which allows you all time from now and through ICANN73 (where groups will likely be meeting and may have an opportunity to discuss their thoughts on DNS abuse) to collect inputs. We welcome your thoughts on our proposed path forward. Given that the team has expanded since the initial Doodle poll, staff will circulate a new poll separately, where we can hopefully identify a suitable time to meet on an ongoing basis. Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM To: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Dear small team members, Staff took a first cut at drafting a message to some of the community groups that have shown a keen interest in the topic (i.e., ALAC, GAC, SSAC, DNS Abuse Institute), though this may not be the full list of outreach targets. There is a general outline that is mostly consistent for each of the draft messages, which first seeks to differentiate between content abuse versus the types of abuse in contracts (e.g., pharming, phishing, malware, botnets) and notes that the current Bylaws do not allow ICANN to regulate content. The aspect that varies across the letters is referencing the previous pieces of Advice or other communications the groups have provided on the topic of DNS abuse. The second part that is common across the letters is asking each of the groups to identify specific DNS abuse issues and if/why/how policy development in particular is the right mechanism to address the issues. You can see the four draft messages here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5EwbztuoNH8r36lCxVo_VD4mEDwloFyEr8... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1rpmBJZ5Ewbztu...> On the staff side, we were planning to schedule a call next week at the same time, where the approach for the letters could be discussed as well as the co-leads be confirmed, presumably by non-objection. However, next week is ICANN73 prep week and we do not want to create conflicts for those that want to fully participate. As such, we would suggest that the group tries to review the staff draft and refine as necessary over email. Concurrently, we can seek to schedule a meeting the week of 28 February - 4 March (targeting the Wednesday again), in the event the group cannot reach agreement on the text over email. I believe the group agreed that the next step would be to get the Council on board with the approach and text, and have the communications sent by the Council rather than the small team. If the group can reach agreement on the text before having to meet again, we can of course carry out these next steps sooner rather than later. Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that the DNS abuse small team is on the Council meeting agenda as AOB. I believe this would a great first chance for the presumed co-leads of this small team to lead :) Best, Marika & Steve From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 6:34 AM To: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>>, "gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>" <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team Thanks Justine! Mark, assuming no groundswell of opposition to our new Dynamic Duo, let’s schedule a call with Staff to find out the full extent of what we just volunteered for! ☺ Best, Paul From: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam <gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 PM To: gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-dnsabuse-smallteam] Leadership for the DNS Abuse Small Team [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] +1 to the proposition for small team co-leads. My thanks for Mark and Paul for volunteering. Kind regards, Justine On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 03:19, Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> wrote: All, As I expressed before, I will gladly co-lead the group and help with any outstanding tasks. Best, On 02/11/2022 15:48, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: Dear Steve & Company and Fellow Small Team Members, I really enjoyed our call and I think this small team is going to be very productive. I would like to step forward and offer to serve as primary contact/chair (whatever we are calling it) for this DNS Abuse Small Team. I am happy to chair the calls and work with Staff on preparing for them and herding the action items, etc. Please let me know next steps. Thank you for your consideration. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. 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Thomas Rickert | rickert.law