This thread is going way, way off-topic, but Alan’s statement: “We have lots of debate and discussion within At-Large on just what those interests are and how best to defend them.” caught my attention. I believe it is naïve and/or extreme hubris to think that ALAC could possibly define, via internal “debate and discussion”, the interests of 4.8 billion (as of Jun 2020) active users of the Internet. And that’s assuming those 4.8 billion interests are even monolith (and we know they aren’t). Internet users now comprise the majority of human beings on the planet, and are reflective of the broader human diversity in terms of region, ethnicity, language, currency, political/economic environment, culture, etc. In this regard, ALAC missed its opportunity to become the Research Division of ICANN, informing the policy development process with sound research backed by population statistics. Statistics that could pose (and answer) essential questions like: How many Internet users’ primary language is based on a non-Latin character set? What share of Internet Users are under 25? What payment/banking methods create barriers to online commerce, and what are viable alternatives? How many use a smartphone/apps versus a computer? An ALAC that produced reports like these, rather than anecdotes and personal experiences, would be extremely valuable to the policy development process, and truly provide a voice to stakeholders missing from the ICANN model. J. From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Date: Friday, July 31, 2020 at 9:53 AM To: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> Cc: "gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] FW: [GNSO-EPDP-Lead] Updated: ALAC statement for EPDP Final Report Notice: This email is from an external sender. We represent only ourselves, or the ALAC if duly appointed, or our home organization if there is one. We make no claim to "represent" the billions of Internet users. We do our best to represent the INTERESTS of Internet users, as best we understand them. We have lots of debate and discussion within At-Large on just what those interests are and how best to defend them. Perhaps once you retire as a registrar, you may choose to join us as many colleagues from other parts of ICANN have. Alan At 2020-07-31 12:18 PM, Volker Greimann wrote: Just curious: How many billions do you represent? 4 or 5? And with that I am not even going into mandate and representation questions.... Just asking, -- Volker A. Greimann General Counsel and Policy Manager KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH T: +49 6894 9396901 M: +49 6894 9396851 F: +49 6894 9396851 W: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835 CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358. On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:58 AM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > wrote: Please use the attached reformatted version instead (content identical). Alan At 2020-07-29 06:33 PM, Caitlin Tubergen wrote: Dear EPDP Team: Please find attached ALAC’s statement for inclusion on in the Final Report. Best regards, Marika, Berry, and Caitlin From: Gnso-secs < gnso-secs-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM To: GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Cc: Hadia El Miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard@gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> Subject: [gnso-secs] ALAC statement for EPDP Final Report Please find attached the ALAC statement for inclusion in the EPDP Phase 2 Final Report. The ALAC reserves the right to revise this statement prior to the final submission deadline of 24 August 2020. Please acknowledge receipt. I would like to take this opportunity, on my behalf and that of Hadia, to thank all staff who worked on the EPDP for their superb support and long hours of work. 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