Hi all,

In response to the attached document:

A) Proposal for the user group " registrants " be removed:

Reason:

a) Registrants generally do not use Whois to access their data, they access it through their service portal with their service provider. 

b) It is not necessary for performance of contract as: see a)

c) Whois and RDAP do not provide data update functionality.


B) Proposal for the user group " end users " to be removed:

Reason:

a) End users do not have a sufficient legitimate interest that outweighs the interest of the data subject.

b) It is impossible to differentiate commercial and non-commercial use, which could be the only conceivable justification for the end user to request that data and even that is highly contestable.

c) End Users can access the public part of the registration record for listed purpose a). While purpose b) is benficial, there is no corresponding legal right that outweighs the interest of the data subject.


C) Proposal to break up User group "EU Law Enforcement into law enforcement of applicable jurisdiction" and "law enforcement of other jurisdiction" also add other similarly legally endowed entities like agencies with enforcement rights that are not strictly LEA.

Reason:

a) EU jurisdiction of LEA has no significance to Non-EU-based CPs.

b) Even within EU, LEA jurisdiction stops at country borders unless special treaty or agreement exists.


D) Proposal to change purposes of all LEA user groups to:
"Investigation or enforcement action within legal remit and jurisdiction, for example investigation of cybercrime or DNS Abuse"

Reason:

a) Purposes for all LEA actors should be aligned

b) Purpose of current EU LEA user group does not require actual criminal investigation, therefore is too broad.


E) Proposal to changes of purposes in IP user group:

1) First bullet: Change "parties using a domain name" to registered name holders or their representatives"

2) Second bullet: Change "registration data" to "domain name registration", remove "and "respond to fraudulent use of legitimate data"

3) Remove third bullet

Reasons:

1) Users of a domain name can be anyone, not just the registrant

2) Fraudulent use of legitimate data would only be detectable if data is already available. How would such a review even get triggered if data is redacted?

3) Hard to see how this purpose outweighs registered name holder rights to privacy.

4) IP User group only have legitimate interest in registration data when their rights are violated.


Remove user group: Commercial:

Reason: Wanting to buy a domain name is not a legitimate purpose that outweighs the rights of the registered name holders. If they wanted to sell it, they would open other venues. If not, purchase requests amount to unsolicited commercial mails that most forwarding services legitimately filter out for their customers.


Further thoughts: Academic Researcher and Security Researcher would need much more refining or everyone will apply as such.


Am 04.06.2019 um 17:00 schrieb Marika Konings:

Dear EPDP Team,

 

Please see below the proposed agenda for Thursday’s EPDP Team meeting. Due to unforeseen circumstances, Steve Crocker will not be able to attend so his presentation to the EPDP Team will be rescheduled for another time. Please review the attached document prior to the meeting in preparation for agenda item 6.

 

Best regards,

 

Caitlin, Berry and Marika

 

 

EPDP Phase 2 - Meeting #5

Proposed Agenda

Thursday, 6 June 2019 at 14.00 UTC

 

1.               Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)

 

2.               Confirmation of agenda (Chair)

 

3.               Welcome and housekeeping issues (Chair) (10 minutes)

 

4.               Review of clarifying questions, concerns and/or background information submitted in relation to GNSO Council -Board consultation in relation to Board action on Phase 1 recommendations - see https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2019-05-15-en#1.b (Chair) (15 minutes)

    1. Overview of clarifying questions, concerns and/or background information put forward
    2. Discuss which of these have support of EPDP Team to be submitted to GNSO Council
    3. Confirm next steps

 

5.               SSAD Priority 1 worksheet (15 minutes) (Marika)

    1. Overview of input received – see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uoolznpxb0JxddFZA5n9ueRkB4tjDOQQCoMeQWpbiSc/edit?usp=sharing
    2. Further comments / questions
    3. Confirm next steps for finalization of priority 1 worksheet

 

6.               SSAD – Topic c Topic: Define user groups, criteria and purposes / lawful basis per user group (Marika) (60 minutes)

    1. Review template developed by staff support team (see attached)
    2. EPDP Team input
    3. Confirm next steps

 

7.               Any other business

    1. Priority 2 small team meetings update

Reminder - Call schedule remaining priority 2 worksheets:

·         Wednesday, 12 June - 20:00 – 21.30 UTC 

City field redaction 

Data Retention

·         Monday 17 June – 13:00 – 14:30 UTC

Potential OCTO Purpose

Feasibility of unique contacts to have a uniform anonymized email address

·         TBC (post ICANN65)

Accuracy and WHOIS ARS

 

8.               Wrap and confirm next meeting to be scheduled for Thursday, 13 June at 14.00 UTC (5 minutes)

    1. Confirm action items
    2. Confirm questions for ICANN Org, if any

 

 

Marika Konings

Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 

Email: marika.konings@icann.org  

 

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