Dear all,

Thank you very much for your kind works and comments

Please find attached mine as well

Regards

Kavouss



On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:53 AM Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> wrote:

 

Thank you Stephanie

 

I have made two minor proposals for the purpose of clarity and accuracy, please find my draft attached – the suggestions are tracked along with comments explaining the rationale behind them. For those who are not going to open the document below are my two suggestions

 

A

 

Change

"ICANN is a global non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation of the Internet's system of Unique identifiers, .i.e. domain names and IP addresses."

 

To

 

"ICANN is a global non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation of the Internet's system of Unique identifiers, as described in its mission."

 

Reason

The Unique identifiers are three sets not two

1.       Domain Names

2.       IP addresses

3.       Protocol port and parameter numbers

 

Alternatively we can mention all three. Adding as described in its mission completes ICANN's description without the need to put any more thoughts into it.

 

B

 

Change

"relating to the processing of personal data collected by stakeholders in the domain name industry"

 

To

"relating to the processing of personal data by stakeholders in the domain name industry"

 

Reason:

The processing of the data includes its collection.

 

 

Thank you again

Hadia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 8:06 AM
To: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] draft EDPB

 

And here is another draft, in redline so you can see the changes.  I am not sure I caught everything (I resisted lengthening it) but I hope we are getting close.

Cheers and thanks to all!

Stephanie

On 2018-12-05 20:11, Stephanie Perrin wrote:

Will do, I think there are not too many comments, will redraft tonight.

cheers SP

On 2018-12-05 17:16, Kurt Pritz wrote:

Hi Stephanie: 

 

Thank you for keeping track of and shepherding this. Do you think you could make some choices about final wording and we will present that to the team at the meeting tomorrow?

 

If you agree, then we can carve some time out of the meeting agenda, review the letter and make a decision about sending it to the EDPB. 

 

Thank you again and best regards,

 

Kurt

 



On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

 

Thanks for bringing that language to my attention Hadia.  Actually, ICANN's remit is rather narrower than the industry or the ecosystem....we should perhaps be more modest in our claims, and state that the Temporary Specification (...) is intended to bring the policies and contracts affecting registration data which ICANN controls  in compliance with the GDPR." 

Stephanie

On 2018-12-05 15:25, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi wrote:

Hi Stephanie and all,
 
 
With regard to the statement "the ICANN Board adopted a Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (“Temporary Specification”), which is intended to bring the domain name ecosystem into GDPR compliance" I think it might be more true  to what the EPDP team is doing if we said " which is intended to bring the domain name industry into GDPR compliance"
 
 
Thank you all again
 
 
Hadia
 
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From: Mark Svancarek (CELA) <marksv@microsoft.com>
Sent: 05 December 2018 18:11
To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi; Amr Elsadr
Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org
Subject: RE: [Gnso-epdp-team] draft EDPB
 
I think that is good.
 
From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:21 AM
To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja>
Cc: gnso-epdp-team@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] draft EDPB
 
Thank you Amr, It is not a matter of objection, I just think that taking into consideration previous communications with the EDPB it would be better to just state what is in the mission statement and all cases I don't suppose such a change will disturb anyone. Please find below my suggestion
 
"ICANN is a global non-governmental non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems as described in its mission"
 
Best
Hadia
 
 
From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 3:57 PM
To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi
Cc: Stephanie Perrin; gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] draft EDPB
 
Hi Hadia,
 
Responses in-line:
 
On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>> wrote:
 
Sorry a correction to the email that I sent in a rush below
 
Dear Stephanie,
 
Thank you and all who have contributed to the  EDPB draft letter. However I do not agree with the statement in the first paragraph that says
 
" ICANN is a global non-governmental non-profit organization responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifiers, i.e., domain names and IP addresses."
 
The above statement attempts to define ICANN's mission – which is indeed out of our scope -  and strongly contradicts with ICANN's note to the EDPB on May 5 2018 and contradicts with the letter sent on July 5 from EDPB to Goran Marby in which the EDPB acknowledges that ICANN's mandate goes beyond ensuring the stable and secure operation  of the Internet's system of unique identifier. To remind you the letter of July 5  from EDPB said
 
" in its letter of 10 may 2018, ICANN makes several references to ICANN's Bylaws to underline that ICANN's mission with respect to domain names is not limited to ensuring the stable and secure operation of the internet unique identifiers system (technical stability). The EDPB has taken note of ICANN's Bylaws, which require ICANN, in carrying out its mandate …”
 
 
The original language seems fine to me. It’s consistent with the bylaws, and if it helps at all, it doesn’t say that ICANN’s mission is limited to anything. It just states that ICANN is responsible for ensuring the stable and secure operation of the Internet’s system of unique identifiers. Surely, this is something that isn’t worth objecting to?
 
I also do not agree with the statement in the draft letter that says " the ICANN Board adopted a Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (“Temporary Specification”), which is intended to bring the domain name ecosystem into GDPR compliance"
The aforementioned intention of the temporary specification is too broad, the temporary specification is intended to ensure that the  Personal Data that is Processed by certain participants in the gTLD domain name ecosystem is in compliance with the GDPR, we are certainly not working on the whole domain name ecosystem nor is it within our mandate.
 
 
Agree that the original language is not correct. It would be best to be more accurate and specific on this. We wouldn’t want to convey a wrong impression of what the EPDP Team was chartered to do.
 
Thanks.
 
Amr
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