Hi Everyone: Attached is a redline and clean version of the Triage report. There is no need to review this before today’s meeting. I have taken out all the Issue Summaries in order to simplify the report and amended the high-level themes in line with the comments. Let me know your thoughts. I plan to send this out this week. Kurt
Kurt, On behalf of the RySG I am submitting the following feedback to the revised triage document. The RySG would like to express our appreciation for the revised version noting that it is improved over the earlier draft and addresses many of the points we raised in our response to that version. We would like to offer the following comments on this draft. 1. Section 2 (page 6) lists the Triage report requirements from the charter however the last part is missing and should be included for completeness: "Deliberations of this first deliverable should include at least one round of elimination of clauses, if appropriate, and a second round of Full Consensus approval of a whole set of clauses." 2. Section 5 "group comments by section" starting on page 10 (note: the table of contents incorrectly lists page 9) recreates the responses of each group to the triage surveys. Including the full responses here is probably unnecessary and makes the report much longer than need be. That data is publicly available on the ePDP’s wiki page. Links to the ePDP wiki space are provided however they are outdated and need to be updated. As this triage report is the first deliverable of the working group, the RySG would like to ask what the process will be for delivering/publishing the final version and if it will be represented as having achieved "consensus" of the working group. Thank you, Marc Anderson From: Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Kurt Pritz Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:55 AM To: GNSO EPDP <gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Gnso-epdp-team] Triage Report Hi Everyone: Attached is a redline and clean version of the Triage report. There is no need to review this before today’s meeting. I have taken out all the Issue Summaries in order to simplify the report and amended the high-level themes in line with the comments. Let me know your thoughts. I plan to send this out this week. Kurt _______________________________________________ Gnso-epdp-team mailing list Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team
Hi Kurt and All, The NCSG members of the EPDP Team are still reviewing the final version of the Triage report. Apologies for the late request, but would it be possible to postpone delivery of the report to the GNSO Council until COB, Monday 10 September? We expect to be able to provide feedback (if any) before the weekend is over. I hope this isn’t too troublesome a request. Thanks. Amr
On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone:
Attached is a redline and clean version of the Triage report. There is no need to review this before today’s meeting.
I have taken out all the Issue Summaries in order to simplify the report and amended the high-level themes in line with the comments.
Let me know your thoughts. I plan to send this out this week.
Kurt
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Hello Kurt and EPDP, Below are our comments on the report. 1. It should be clarified that where NCSG indicated "No Strong Opinion", it solely meant a deferral and it reserves the right to discuss issues related to those sections. 2. Please add a clarification to the following paragraph: "After the first meeting, it was realized there would be few areas of consensus that sections were supported as written so it was decided to not spend time attempting to reach consensus on any section during the triage stage." *Clarification:* *Despite having been required by the EPDP charter to provide a* "Full consensus support" triage report, "After the first meeting, it was realized there would be few areas of consensus that sections were supported as written so it was decided to not spend time attempting to reach consensus on any section during the triage stage." * Hence this document should not be treated as a consensus document*. 3. page, 4,"A summary chart indicating which teams supported individual Temporary Specification sections" this has to change to: a summary chart indicating each *team's opinion *about each section of temp spec." The chart really does not relay support as such. it is inclusive of support and disagreements. so opinion might be a better word. 4. Paragraph 1, page 8: "Importantly, there was often agreement on broad principles, but those areas of agreement are hidden in this chart where the combination of sections into one line item or suggested minor edits resulted in “not supporting the language as written.” This paragraph should be removed. "Agreement on broad principles" iwithout mentioning those principles makes it obscure. We need to either name the broad principles (which can't happen now) or we should remove. 5.page 8, Paragraph 4: "The Registry Stakeholder Group, when disagreeing with a section, often voiced general agreement but with certain changes recommended." We would like to know if the RySG stated this in a comment and if not which methodology has been used to determine it "often" voiced "general agreement". The more general point is that, certainly there are agreements on some issues but the table is inconclusive in showing nuances and agreements. Farzaneh On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:07 AM Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi Kurt and All,
The NCSG members of the EPDP Team are still reviewing the final version of the Triage report. Apologies for the late request, but would it be possible to postpone delivery of the report to the GNSO Council until COB, Monday 10 September? We expect to be able to provide feedback (if any) before the weekend is over. I hope this isn’t too troublesome a request.
Thanks.
Amr
On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone:
Attached is a redline and clean version of the Triage report. There is no need to review this before today’s meeting.
I have taken out all the Issue Summaries in order to simplify the report and amended the high-level themes in line with the comments.
Let me know your thoughts. I plan to send this out this week.
Kurt
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