Re: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps
Do we have any timeline projection of when we might reconvene? Before ICANN74? Alan At 2022-05-04 08:43 AM, Sebastien@registry.godaddy wrote:
Hi Steve,
Sorry for the late response, I was keen on better understanding our timelines before scheduling further meetings. I shared my views regarding that in my previous email today.
While we organize for the ODP team to conduct its scoping work, I am more than happy to organize further discussions with the Small Team to discuss these topics and any other the team may see fit.
The easiest is probably for Staff to circulate a Doodle Poll to find a time block that works for all.
In the same vein: I do not want to change the representative model of this team, but as it is taking more time than initially anticipated, I think it is fair to offer any member the opportunity to step down and designate someone to replace them.
Kindly,
Sebastien Ducos
GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager
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+33612284445
France & Australia
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Just listened to Council discussion of our small team report today.
What I heard argues for our Small Team to hold at least one more meeting:
1. councilors heard that PoC will assess request volumes, which would help in determining costs of an eventual SSAD (p.6 item 5 in our attached report: "SSAD PoC should run for period of time to gather representative picture of request volume..."
But as noted in a footnote of our report, I believe we will have low request volume for a Ticketing System that does not improve upon today's experience of delayed responses and non-disclosures. Low volume experience will undermine our contention that we need to improve upon the status quo.
2. Heard some discussion of the attached InfoNetworks proposal for an "SSAD Pilot that addresses the actual goal for the SSAD development process and demonstrates its viability (p.7)". Our small team could assess that option.
Moreover, another part of the InfoNetworks paper deserves our consideration: InfoNetworks is helping DotMusic to seek "action guidance" from Cyprus DPA, based upon a detailed reference implementation and privacy impact assessment.
We should examine that Cyprus experience as an option for seeking SSAD guidance from the EDPB. I would like to understand the time and cost of developing the minimum documentation and reference implementation required for Org to seek EDPB guidance.
Sincerely,
Steve DelBianco
ICANN Business Constituency
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President & CEO, NetChoice
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Alan, all, After consulting with Sebastien, he would like to propose that the small team reconvenes next Wednesday 25 April at 13.00 UTC. This will allow for an update on the current status as well as consideration of if/how the ICANN74 session could be used. A calendar invite will follow shortly. Best regards, Marika On 18 May 2022, at 06:32, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: Do we have any timeline projection of when we might reconvene? Before ICANN74? Alan At 2022-05-04 08:43 AM, Sebastien@registry.godaddy wrote: Hi Steve, Sorry for the late response, I was keen on better understanding our timelines before scheduling further meetings. I shared my views regarding that in my previous email today. While we organize for the ODP team to conduct its scoping work, I am more than happy to organize further discussions with the Small Team to discuss these topics and any other the team may see fit. The easiest is probably for Staff to circulate a Doodle Poll to find a time block that works for all. In the same vein: I do not want to change the representative model of this team, but as it is taking more time than initially anticipated, I think it is fair to offer any member the opportunity to step down and designate someone to replace them. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager [9ae893f.png] +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy<mailto:sebastien@registry.godaddy> From: GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 4:23 pm To: gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps You don't often get email from sdelbianco@netchoice.org. Learn why this is important [aka.ms]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification__;!...> Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Just listened to Council discussion of our small team report today. What I heard argues for our Small Team to hold at least one more meeting: 1. councilors heard that PoC will assess request volumes, which would help in determining costs of an eventual SSAD (p.6 item 5 in our attached report: "SSAD PoC should run for period of time to gather representative picture of request volume..." But as noted in a footnote of our report, I believe we will have low request volume for a Ticketing System that does not improve upon today?s experience of delayed responses and non-disclosures. Low volume experience will undermine our contention that we need to improve upon the status quo. 2. Heard some discussion of the attached InfoNetworks proposal for an ?SSAD Pilot that addresses the actual goal for the SSAD development process and demonstrates its viability (p.7)?. Our small team could assess that option. Moreover, another part of the InfoNetworks paper deserves our consideration: InfoNetworks is helping DotMusic to seek ?action guidance? from Cyprus DPA, based upon a detailed reference implementation and privacy impact assessment. We should examine that Cyprus experience as an option for seeking SSAD guidance from the EDPB. I would like to understand the time and cost of developing the minimum documentation and reference implementation required for Org to seek EDPB guidance. Sincerely, Steve DelBianco ICANN Business Constituency -- President & CEO, NetChoice +1-703-615-6206 _______________________________________________ GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam mailing list GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdpp2-smallteam _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam mailing list GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdpp2-smallteam _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi, I’ll be on vacation for May 20 – 27, so unable to meet next week. Do good work without me! 😊 Thanks, -- Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they swyld@tucows.com From: Marika Konings Sent: May 18, 2022 8:28 AM To: Alan Greenberg Cc: gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps Alan, all, After consulting with Sebastien, he would like to propose that the small team reconvenes next Wednesday 25 April at 13.00 UTC. This will allow for an update on the current status as well as consideration of if/how the ICANN74 session could be used. A calendar invite will follow shortly. Best regards, Marika On 18 May 2022, at 06:32, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: Do we have any timeline projection of when we might reconvene? Before ICANN74? Alan At 2022-05-04 08:43 AM, Sebastien@registry.godaddy wrote: Hi Steve, Sorry for the late response, I was keen on better understanding our timelines before scheduling further meetings. I shared my views regarding that in my previous email today. While we organize for the ODP team to conduct its scoping work, I am more than happy to organize further discussions with the Small Team to discuss these topics and any other the team may see fit. The easiest is probably for Staff to circulate a Doodle Poll to find a time block that works for all. In the same vein: I do not want to change the representative model of this team, but as it is taking more time than initially anticipated, I think it is fair to offer any member the opportunity to step down and designate someone to replace them. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy From: GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 4:23 pm To: gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps You don't often get email from sdelbianco@netchoice.org. Learn why this is important [aka.ms] Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Just listened to Council discussion of our small team report today. What I heard argues for our Small Team to hold at least one more meeting: 1. councilors heard that PoC will assess request volumes, which would help in determining costs of an eventual SSAD (p.6 item 5 in our attached report: "SSAD PoC should run for period of time to gather representative picture of request volume..." But as noted in a footnote of our report, I believe we will have low request volume for a Ticketing System that does not improve upon today?s experience of delayed responses and non-disclosures. Low volume experience will undermine our contention that we need to improve upon the status quo. 2. Heard some discussion of the attached InfoNetworks proposal for an ?SSAD Pilot that addresses the actual goal for the SSAD development process and demonstrates its viability (p.7)?. Our small team could assess that option. Moreover, another part of the InfoNetworks paper deserves our consideration: InfoNetworks is helping DotMusic to seek ?action guidance? from Cyprus DPA, based upon a detailed reference implementation and privacy impact assessment. We should examine that Cyprus experience as an option for seeking SSAD guidance from the EDPB. I would like to understand the time and cost of developing the minimum documentation and reference implementation required for Org to seek EDPB guidance. Sincerely, Steve DelBianco ICANN Business Constituency -- President & CEO, NetChoice +1-703-615-6206 _______________________________________________ GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam mailing list GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdpp2-smallteam _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Hi, I’ll be on vacation for May 20 – 27, so unable to meet next week. Do good work without me! 😊 Thanks, -- Sarah Wyld, CIPP/E Policy & Privacy Manager Pronouns: she/they swyld@tucows.com From: Marika Konings Sent: May 18, 2022 8:28 AM To: Alan Greenberg Cc: gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps Alan, all, After consulting with Sebastien, he would like to propose that the small team reconvenes next Wednesday 25 April at 13.00 UTC. This will allow for an update on the current status as well as consideration of if/how the ICANN74 session could be used. A calendar invite will follow shortly. Best regards, Marika On 18 May 2022, at 06:32, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: Do we have any timeline projection of when we might reconvene? Before ICANN74? Alan At 2022-05-04 08:43 AM, Sebastien@registry.godaddy wrote: Hi Steve, Sorry for the late response, I was keen on better understanding our timelines before scheduling further meetings. I shared my views regarding that in my previous email today. While we organize for the ODP team to conduct its scoping work, I am more than happy to organize further discussions with the Small Team to discuss these topics and any other the team may see fit. The easiest is probably for Staff to circulate a Doodle Poll to find a time block that works for all. In the same vein: I do not want to change the representative model of this team, but as it is taking more time than initially anticipated, I think it is fair to offer any member the opportunity to step down and designate someone to replace them. Kindly, Sebastien Ducos GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien@registry.godaddy From: GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 4:23 pm To: gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-epdpp2-smallteam@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam] next steps You don't often get email from sdelbianco@netchoice.org. Learn why this is important [aka.ms] Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Just listened to Council discussion of our small team report today. What I heard argues for our Small Team to hold at least one more meeting: 1. councilors heard that PoC will assess request volumes, which would help in determining costs of an eventual SSAD (p.6 item 5 in our attached report: "SSAD PoC should run for period of time to gather representative picture of request volume..." But as noted in a footnote of our report, I believe we will have low request volume for a Ticketing System that does not improve upon today?s experience of delayed responses and non-disclosures. Low volume experience will undermine our contention that we need to improve upon the status quo. 2. Heard some discussion of the attached InfoNetworks proposal for an ?SSAD Pilot that addresses the actual goal for the SSAD development process and demonstrates its viability (p.7)?. Our small team could assess that option. Moreover, another part of the InfoNetworks paper deserves our consideration: InfoNetworks is helping DotMusic to seek ?action guidance? from Cyprus DPA, based upon a detailed reference implementation and privacy impact assessment. We should examine that Cyprus experience as an option for seeking SSAD guidance from the EDPB. I would like to understand the time and cost of developing the minimum documentation and reference implementation required for Org to seek EDPB guidance. Sincerely, Steve DelBianco ICANN Business Constituency -- President & CEO, NetChoice +1-703-615-6206 _______________________________________________ GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam mailing list GNSO-EPDPP2-SmallTeam@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdpp2-smallteam _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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