Petter,

This is basic stuff, even without George’s comments, I’m amazed no one picked it up, but with George taking the time to comment it’s unbelievable!

How can the IRT team get this fixed? Does it need to go back to the GNSO?

Best regards,


Paul


On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> wrote:
Hi again,

We (the IRT)  have a meeting at the Gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt tomorrow. 

If there is a specific question regarding the INGO identifier list you would like me to raise, please let me know.

Best,
Petter

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Thank you


24 januari 2018 14:09:56 +01:00, skrev Jay Chapman <jay@digimedia.com>:
+1 Paul

Sincerely,
Jay Chapman
On Jan 24, 2018 5:41 AM, "Paul Tattersfield" <gpmgroup@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Mary for confirming the history, that is helpful.

I think it shows the dangers of ICANN building policy based on the principle of relying on third party lists especially ones subject to regular revision over time.

Gong (2011)
Karp (2012)
Mosaic (2013)
Witness (2013)
Rare (2015)
Restored (2016)

I think it also demonstrates how bad policy can evolve out of trying to create quick fix solutions only perceived as necessary as a result of other unrelated flawed approaches.

Not good – someone should have been on top of this.

Best regards,


Paul.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:

Hello Paul and everyone,

 

The list of INGOs is that of the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and the GNSO PDP recommendation was to use the ECOSOC list. As such, it is not up to ICANN to make changes to that list; additions, modifications and deletions are determined under the applicable UN rules for organizations obtaining or maintaining recognition (e.g. general or consultative status) with ECOSOC. The staff understanding is that any updates needing to be made to the ICANN list as a result of changes to the ECOSOC list will be handled through the UN’s Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA).

 

Cheers

Mary

 

From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Paul Tattersfield <gpmgroup@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 14:03
To: "gnso-igo-ingo-." <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>
Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Is the INGO Identifier List subject to revisions?

 

Is the recently published INGO Identifier List subject to revisions?
https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/reserved-names/ingo-identifier-list.xml[icann.org]

A cursory look shows names like



gong
karp
mosaic
rare
restored
witness


Gong is an acronym for Gradani organizirano nadgledaju glasan

Karp is an acronym for The Korean Association of Retired Persons

Moisaic is a branding for More Mosaic NGO & Mosaic International NGO

Including rare, restored & witness doesn't sit well with the principal of coexistence.


Best regards,


Paul.



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