Just a
reminder, that in the “Co-Chairs’ Summary, Statement, and Proposed Next
Steps” (January 31, 2018), based on the second call between Mr Kirikos
and us co-chairs, on Mr Kirikos’ appeal under Section 3.7, Phil and I suggested
some steps to move forward:
a) Determine
whether WG members wish to hold another call to attempt to further clarify and
consolidate the existing six options for resolution of Recommendation Three.
b) Immediately
after such call (or just immediately, if it is not supported) prepare and
distribute a public and transparent poll of WG members to support their primary
choice among Recommendation Three options; and their support/opposition and
additional comments for the remaining options, as well as the other three
Recommendations, with poll results to be tabulated and distributed as soon as
feasible during February. At that time the co-chairs will “make an evaluation
of the [consensus level]designation and publish it for the group to review” to
initiate the consensus call process through the method recommended in Section
3.6 of the Guidelines [https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-01sep16-en.pdf].
c) Resume WG calls to discuss the poll results, co-chairs’ estimated
designations, and move toward final consensus positions while preparing for the
facilitated session.
d) Hold a facilitated WG session at ICANN 61.
That conclusion and suggestion to move forward was however strongly
opposed by Mr Kirikos, who stated that:
“A poll (non-anonymous, and agreed to by
all before it got sent out, unlike
the last one) was supposed to be a "last resort", *IF* the facilitated process to reach consensus failed. In
other words, if it was ever to take place, it would only
be *after* the facilitated process…I don't agree
with the newly proposed process at all, as it doesn't reflect what was agreed on January 18, 2018. If
the co-chairs are reneging on that
agreement, I intend to invoke Section 3.7 again.” (February 1, 2018).
/ Petter
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Thank you
Phil: I'm glad you insist that the guidelines be followed. That's
exactly what I've wanted from day 1. What do the guidelines say about
anonymous polls, like the ones from October and March?
I too will be insisting that the guidelines be followed -- by you and
Petter (as co-chairs), and by Susan/Heather.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <
Paul@law.es> wrote:
Phil,
I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post
appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets
us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to
elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of
the poll as well.
On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via
For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of
the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds
that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted
in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during
the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
Sent from my iPhone
Hi folks,
In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet
version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have
additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live
Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be
constructive.
See you in 2 hours.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <
icann@leap.com> wrote:
Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to
change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his
support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate
the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If
there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
(should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded
it previously)
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <
icann@leap.com> wrote:
Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
Happy to add more or make any changes.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
wrote:
Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior
email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an
11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the
PDF and XLS.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
wrote:
Hi folks,
I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's
call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and
agenda.
There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome),
and
I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF
(just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all
the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the
raw
posts).
One can also see it via a web browser at:
z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make
any
changes/updates, if folks so desire.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
<PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx>
<PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf>
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