Invitation to GAC Observers to join our WG
Hello everyone, While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I¹ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council¹s view. On a related note the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not ³IGOs² as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended. Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
Hi Mary, I think it should focus on the IGOs. That's why in my original suggestion, I wrote "perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross)" in order to distinguish the "IGO observers" from the rest of the GAC observers. But, perhaps others feel differently. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,
While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I’ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council’s view.
On a related note – the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not “IGOs” as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended.
Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly?
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
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Hello all, Even though the Red Cross is an INGO it has some special protections similar to the INGOs, and we must remember that this all started with a request by the GAC of protections for the Red Cross and the International Olympic Committee. I support inviting the Red Cross too, they had an important intervention in the first working group. Best regards, Osvaldo Novoa Subgerente General Antel Guatemala 1075, Nivel 22 Montevideo, 11800 Uruguay Tel. +598 2928 6400 Fax. +598 2928 6401 -----Mensaje original----- De: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de George Kirikos Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Noviembre de 2014 14:54 Para: Mary Wong CC: gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org Asunto: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to GAC Observers to join our WG Hi Mary, I think it should focus on the IGOs. That's why in my original suggestion, I wrote "perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross)" in order to distinguish the "IGO observers" from the rest of the GAC observers. But, perhaps others feel differently. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,
While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I’ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council’s view.
On a related note – the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not “IGOs” as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended.
Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly?
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
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Hi All, 1) I think we shall keep to the GAC list of Protected IGOs, and 2) Yes, I support the idea of sending a special invitation to those. / Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hi Mary,
I think it should focus on the IGOs. That's why in my original suggestion, I wrote "perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross)" in order to distinguish the "IGO observers" from the rest of the GAC observers.
But, perhaps others feel differently.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mary Wong <<mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone,
While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I’ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council’s view.
On a related note – the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not “IGOs” as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended.
Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly?
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: <mary.wong@icann.org>
From: Petter Rindforth <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <<gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu>
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
<https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers>
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/> _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp>
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Hello everyone, To be honest I¹m not sure that we ought to distinguish between IGOs who are GAC Observers but not on the GAC List of Protected IGOs, IGOS who are not GAC Observers but are on the GAC List, and IGOs that are on both lists. At the same time, there is no quick and easy way to check the IGO/NGO status of all the GAC Observers, so we would suggest extending an invitation to all the GAC Observers. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM To: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to GAC Observers to join our WG
Hi All,
1) I think we shall keep to the GAC list of Protected IGOs, and 2) Yes, I support the idea of sending a special invitation to those.
/ Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hi Mary,
I think it should focus on the IGOs. That's why in my original suggestion, I wrote "perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross)" in order to distinguish the "IGO observers" from the rest of the GAC observers.
But, perhaps others feel differently.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,
While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I¹ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council¹s view.
On a related note the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not ³IGOs² as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended.
Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly?
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Reply-To: "petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu <http://www.fenixlegal.eu>
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ _______________________________________________ Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
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Thanks, Mary. Well, if we do it the diplomatical way and send it to all, I presume that we will also extend our possibilities to in fact get some replies back and join us at least as observers. / Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 6 november 2014, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> skrev:
Hello everyone,
To be honest I’m not sure that we ought to distinguish between IGOs who are GAC Observers but not on the GAC List of Protected IGOs, IGOS who are not GAC Observers but are on the GAC List, and IGOs that are on both lists. At the same time, there is no quick and easy way to check the IGO/NGO status of all the GAC Observers, so we would suggest extending an invitation to all the GAC Observers.
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Petter Rindforth <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Reply-To: "<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>" <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM To: George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> Cc: Mary Wong <<mary.wong@icann.org>>, "<gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>" <<gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to GAC Observers to join our WG
Hi All,
1) I think we shall keep to the GAC list of Protected IGOs, and 2) Yes, I support the idea of sending a special invitation to those.
/ Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> www.fenixlegal.eu
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> skrev:
Hi Mary,
I think it should focus on the IGOs. That's why in my original suggestion, I wrote "perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross)" in order to distinguish the "IGO observers" from the rest of the GAC observers.
But, perhaps others feel differently.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Mary Wong <<mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Hello everyone,
While staff is happy to extend the invitation, we think it would be appropriate to first consult the Council as I do not recall another instance (at least, not in recent years that I know of) where a WG has formally invited specific GAC participants to join a WG. I’ll send a note to the Council on behalf of the group, and let you all know the Council’s view.
On a related note – the GAC list of Observers does include entities such as the International Red Cross Movement, who while they are protected by international treaty are not “IGOs” as defined for our purposes (multinational organizations created or constituted by governments). Also, the GAC list of Observers includes IGOs that are NOT on the GAC List of Protected IGOs (sent to ICANN in 2013 and the basis on which current protections, including those GNSO consensus recommendations recently adopted by the Board and other interim protections, have been extended.
Does the WG wish to invite all GAC Observers accordingly?
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: <mary.wong@icann.org>
From: Petter Rindforth <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Reply-To: "<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>" <<petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM To: George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> Cc: "<gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>" <<gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique
George,
Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)
Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??
Best, Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
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6 november 2014, George Kirikos <<icann@leap.com>> skrev:
Hello,
The revised draft letter looks fine to me.
On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":
<https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers>
with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working group?
Sincerely,
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