Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Wednesday, 01 April 2015 at 1600 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-01apr15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#a<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr>pr<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: George Kirikos - Individual Petter Rindforth – IPC Phil Corwin – BC Val Sherman - IPC Jay Chapman – Individual Kathy Kleiman - NCUC David Maher - RySG Mason Cole – RySG Jim Bikoff – IPC Jay Chapman – Individual Paul Tattersfield - Individual Lori Schulman - NPOC Apologies: none ICANN staff: Mary Wong Amy Bivins Steve Chan Yolande Jimenez Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 01 April 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 01 April 2015 George Kirikos:Hi everyone. Nathalie Peregrine:Hello George! George Kirikos:Hi Nathalie. How art thou? Petter Rindforth:Hi there! George Kirikos:Hey Petter. How are you doing? Petter Rindforth:The spring is slowly coming to Sweden, so I'm happy :-) George Kirikos:Great. :-) George Kirikos:My bank is a joke....30 mins on hold, grrrr. Val Sherman:Hi All! George Kirikos:Hi Val. Philip Corwin:Hello all George Kirikos:lol Petter! George Kirikos:Welcome, Phil. Philip Corwin:With ICANN, any given day can be a Fool's Day ;-) Mary Wong:Sorry - didn't realize we were going through the letter Mary Wong:This is the final version based on everyone's comments, which Phil and Petter will be sending to the IGO small group; they are reviewing it one last time prior to sending Nathalie Peregrine:Kathy Kleiman has joined the call Mary Wong:Thanks for the very helpful suggestions, George! George Kirikos:Here's the video with ICANN President Fadi Chehade:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGwbYljtNyI Mason Cole:That's good to know, thanks Steve. George Kirikos:Will the GAC perhaps wait until after the next ICANN meeting (face-to-face) before responding? George Kirikos:(next meeting is end of June) Steve Chan:@George, I'm under the impression that it should definitely be prior to the next meeting George Kirikos:Thanks, Steve. Nathalie Peregrine:Lori Schulman joined the call lori Schulman:sorry I am late. tough month but I am back Mary Wong:Welcome back, Lori, and congrats on the new position again! George Kirikos:Welcome, Lori. lori Schulman:thank you. George Kirikos:New position? George Kirikos:Might need to update Statement of Interest? George Kirikos:https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Lori+S.+Schulman+SOI lori Schulman:yes, I am now Senior Director for Internet policy for INTA George Kirikos:Congratulations. lori Schulman:I need to change my SOI. I haven't done that yet. lots to do. lori Schulman:I will do it after our meeting. DAvid Maher (GNSO - RySG):@ Lori CONGRATS! Philip Corwin:Congrats Lori. As a member of INTA's Internet Committee I look forward to working with you in that context. George Kirikos:#4 mentions 6ter lori Schulman:Thank you David. I appreciate that knowing you are a recovering TM lawyer. Kathy Kleiman:makes sense - tx for the discussion! lori Schulman:thank you Phil. I am very excited. George Kirikos:Didn't we send a letter to the GNSO Council saying that INGOs were off the table? George Kirikos:Thanks, Phil. Mary Wong:Note also that the Council may well amend (expand/limit/edit) our proposed language Kathy Kleiman:yes, agree Mary Wong:The actual Secretariat language on Phil's point is: "As stated earlier, the requirement for UDRP complainants to submit to a “mutual jurisdiction” does not prevent either party from initiating court litigation elsewhere. Similarly, a State’s submission to de novo arbitration should not restrict either party’s recourse to a national court of justice (even though, for a respondent, this option might be rather theoretical if the State successfully asserts immunity from jurisdiction). However, once the respondent has initiated a de novo arbitration procedure and thus concluded the arbitration agreement, the dispute would have to be finally determined by arbitration." George Kirikos:Ontario's consumer protection act, which I've mentioned before, makes those clauses void. George Kirikos:I'm sure similar laws exist elsewhere. George Kirikos:Here's NY state legislation making mandatory arbitration clauses void in some instances http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GBS/26/399-c George Kirikos:Phil's hand is up. Kathy Kleiman:tread water - good term! Mary Wong:From time travel to treading water - Phil's on a roll George Kirikos:See you all in two weeks. Have a great day, everyone. Kathy Kleiman:tx for the meeting! Val Sherman:thanks All! Philip Corwin:Bye all