Dear IGO&INGO IRT, Thanks to the members contributing to the final updates. At today’s IRT meeting, we’ve reviewed and accepted all suggested changes except for one. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAVS27yshnZIVrbwQQ_zFXWMnOXtcQasj4fnmPOo1vQ/edit#<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAVS27yshnZIVrbwQQ_zFXWMnOXtcQasj4fnmPOo1vQ/edit> You’ll note that an implementation note number 4 regarding RPM has yet to be accepted. While the IRT members attending meeting agreed that the proposed addition provides good clear explanation, we felt that is was important to have it highlighted to all IRT members as the RPM in relations to this policy has come up as a complex and often confused subject. To be clear, unless we receive objections, we plan to accept the addition to produce our final product next week. On the point of RPM, we plan to make use of FAQs to supplement the implementation note with further explanation as needed. Loris has kindly volunteered to propose the Q&A for our review to be added to our FAQs page: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64079089 Since this will be our final update, it’s important that all IRT member review the final document prior to publication. Even if you do not have further comments, we’d appreciate your reply of support for the final version. It’s been a long journey with many challenges with a few seemingly impossible obstacles. Thanks to your tireless support and encouragement, I think we’ve made it. We look forward to receiving your reply no later than October 2017. Thanks Dennis Chang From: <gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM To: Crystal Ondo <crystal@donuts.email>, "gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt] Plan to finalize the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Thanks Crystal for the insight! Very helpful indeed. I agree that we should proceed and I’d like the IRT as a whole to support as well. Tomorrow’s IRT meeting is, therefore, important for IRT to attend. In addition to the decision to proceed, we’ll review the policy language one last time for final publication. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAVS27yshnZIVrbwQQ_zFXWMnOXtcQasj4fnmPOo1vQ/edit#<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cAVS27yshnZIVrbwQQ_zFXWMnOXtcQasj4fnmPOo1vQ/edit> Please review the changes prior to the meeting to make our meeting more efficient. Our plan is to complete to finalize the policy language tomorrow and barring any objections we’ll proceed to the announcement and publication. With this plan, I don’t think we’ll need a meeting in ICANN60. Please let me know if the IRT has a need for a session. Thanks Dennis Chang From: Crystal Ondo <crystal@donuts.email> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>, "gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt] FW: [Ext] RySG Comments on the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Thanks, Dennis. To clarify, the RySG isn’t opposed to it. So I think we are good to proceed. [ts Inc.][donuts.domains]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__donuts.domains_&d=DwMFaQ...> Crystal Ondo Assistant General Counsel, Donuts Inc. ________________________________ 5808 Lake Washington Blvd NE, Suite 300 Kirkland, WA 98033 +425-919-3563 [cid:image002.png@01D3386E.06195D80][facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_donuts...> [cid:image003.png@01D3386E.06195D80] [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_DonutsInc&d...> [cid:image004.png@01D3386E.06195D80] [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_compan...> From: <gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 11:50 AM To: "gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-ip-irt] FW: [Ext] RySG Comments on the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Dear IGO&INGO IRT, Below is the email reply from Stéphane. Unfortunately, we did not get a formal support from the RySG and it does not look like we’ll be getting one soon. And therefore, we must press on. Please accept the invitation that just went out for a meeting on Thursday. It’s important that we discuss this matter and I hope the IRT members who are part of the RySG can shed some light. Especially, if there are objections to what we are implementing. There is also an implementation note we’d like IRT to review regarding the RPM in context of our policy. I look forward to your attendance and participation. Thanks Dennis Chang From: Stéphane Van Gelder - Milathan <svg@milathan.ltd> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 11:47 PM To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org> Cc: "regycon@googlegroups.com" <regycon@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [Ext] RySG Comments on the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Hi Dennis, I apologise for the time it has taken to get back to you on this. As I previously indicated, I forwarded your letter to the RySG upon receipt and there has been discussion in the SG on this topic since then. Although members did voice appreciation that ICANN staff reached out to the SG in this proactive fashion to determine our level of support for the proposal as drafted in your letter, the SG as a whole has not ratified a formal position of support. As such, I am loath to try and sum up an SG position for you, beyond the aforementioned appreciation for the way staff have handled this and also, I think it's fair to say, a feeling that the proposal itself is a good faith attempt at taking registry views and realities into account. I have copied the SG on this response so that any individual registry wishing to liaise with you further on this matter can do so. Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director Milathan LTD "Internet Intelligence - Strategic Advice" ———————— Discover The Milathan Post on http://post.milathan.com[post.milathan.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__post.milathan.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=WV3-Q5K4fCzyKr1bE54y2BRqUxemT0jXvsL_lluKChY&s=voGSaRFcaxIXo7NhL9HFxH37JG6mnj1Uk9nrZxJjHKk&e=> Follow me on Twitter: @stephvg ———————— Le 11 sept. 2017 à 18:31, Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> a écrit : Of course. Thank you for letting me know and we’ll plan accordingly. Dennis Chang From: "svg@milathan.ltd<mailto:svg@milathan.ltd>" <svg@milathan.ltd<mailto:svg@milathan.ltd>> Date: Monday, September 11, 2017 at 9:22 AM To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> Cc: Paul Diaz <pdiaz@pir.org<mailto:pdiaz@pir.org>>, "Samantha Demetriou (sdemetriou@verisign.com<mailto:sdemetriou@verisign.com>)" <sdemetriou@verisign.com<mailto:sdemetriou@verisign.com>> Subject: Re: [Ext] RySG Comments on the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Hi Dennis, I have made the RySG aware of both your letter and that it would be good to respond in a timely manner. The group is working to coalesce around a respond as we speak. Can you give us another week please? Best, Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director Milathan LTD "Internet Intelligence - Strategic Advice" ———————— Discover The Milathan Post on http://post.milathan.com[post.milathan.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__post.milathan.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=F_J7gFih8sSU3dRZibWz97IfjspCzAtKEkduBHuS124&s=Q-wfvYJ56Fqa6SpWp9l3oy2Dv0piPVnYlwymNrj79JA&e=> Follow me on Twitter: @stephvg ———————— Le 8 sept. 2017 à 20:16, Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> a écrit : Dear Stéphane, Just a quick follow up. Could you advise me when we could expect a reply from RySG to my letter? It’s important for the policy implementation team and the IRT to know that what we will announce for implementation will be supported by RySG. Thank you for your efforts in the consensus policy. Thanks Dennis Chang From: "svg@milathan.ltd<mailto:svg@milathan.ltd>" <svg@milathan.ltd<mailto:svg@milathan.ltd>> Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 1:29 AM To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> Cc: Paul Diaz <pdiaz@pir.org<mailto:pdiaz@pir.org>>, Russ <russ.weinstein@icann.org<mailto:russ.weinstein@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: RySG Comments on the Proposed Implementation of the Protected IGO&INGO Identifiers Many thanks Dennis, well received. Stéphane Van Gelder Chairman and Managing Director Milathan LTD "Internet Intelligence - Strategic Advice" ———————— Discover The Milathan Post on http://post.milathan.com[post.milathan.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__post.milathan.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=oqoVGGkbcZ8Fcog8H-vTOUYz3w3yTizj3XYj9OW9AZA&s=50wTC6dDOT-AAXKIpg8Hn0QUcqj7A7xy6sSE7XqhITs&e=> Follow me on Twitter: @stephvg ———————— Le 29 août 2017 à 01:02, Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org<mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org>> a écrit : Dear Stéphane, Attached is a letter seeking your support on the IGO&INGO Policy Implementation. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Kind Regards, Dennis S. 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