Reminder - Due Wed. 24 Feb. COB - Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations
Dear IRT Members, We would like to remind you of the request below. Your input would be very much appreciated before close of business on Wednesday 24 February. Thank you in advance for your attention -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN From: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 11:19 PM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org> Subject: Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, In our last IRT meeting on 11 February the following set of milestones was proposed for the implementation of the transition from thin to thick of new registrations in .COM, .NET and .JOBS: * Finalization of Thick WhoIs Policy * Registries to make system changes * Registrar notification of changes * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in OT&E * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in Production * Registrar notification/transition period * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in OT&E * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in Production It was further agreed that affected parties participating in the IRT would share their requirements in terms of notification periods and duration for each of these phases. With a view to reaching an agreement on an implementation timeline for the existing registration track during our next IRT meeting (currently being planned during the ICANN 55 meeting from 5 to 10 March), we would like to request you provide your input as soon as possible, and at the latest by Wednesday 24 February COB. This would allow for discussion of contributions on the mailing list prior to the meeting. In the meantime, please share on this list any questions you may have in relation to the above milestones. Thank you in advance for your collaboration Best Regards -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN
Good Afternoon, My apologies for missing the last meeting, it sounds like it was a good productive meeting. I believe that the milestones that the team came up (listed below) are appropriate. With the actual implementation specifics unknown until they are complete and published I would propose a 12+ month period for Registrars from the point of OTE availability to the required implementation (cutover). The "+" is due to not knowing the specific implementation details of the system changes that the Registry will be making. Thanks Roger From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Fabien Betremieux Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:34 AM To: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Reminder - Due Wed. 24 Feb. COB - Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, We would like to remind you of the request below. Your input would be very much appreciated before close of business on Wednesday 24 February. Thank you in advance for your attention -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN From: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux@icann.org<mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 11:19 PM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>> Subject: Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, In our last IRT meeting on 11 February the following set of milestones was proposed for the implementation of the transition from thin to thick of new registrations in .COM, .NET and .JOBS: * Finalization of Thick WhoIs Policy * Registries to make system changes * Registrar notification of changes * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in OT&E * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in Production * Registrar notification/transition period * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in OT&E * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in Production It was further agreed that affected parties participating in the IRT would share their requirements in terms of notification periods and duration for each of these phases. With a view to reaching an agreement on an implementation timeline for the existing registration track during our next IRT meeting (currently being planned during the ICANN 55 meeting from 5 to 10 March), we would like to request you provide your input as soon as possible, and at the latest by Wednesday 24 February COB. This would allow for discussion of contributions on the mailing list prior to the meeting. In the meantime, please share on this list any questions you may have in relation to the above milestones. Thank you in advance for your collaboration Best Regards -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN
I support Roger's recommendation for the 12+ month time period for implementation unless the RDAP initiative conflicts with the objectives of the Thick WHOIS implementation. Obviously this initiative is further along in the life cycle than RDAP. The issue regarding Registrars' capacity to adopt functional changes to WHOIS or take steps to replace the current WHOIS system still remains. Jennifer Standiford Jennifer On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Roger D Carney <rcarney@godaddy.com<mailto:rcarney@godaddy.com>> wrote: Good Afternoon, My apologies for missing the last meeting, it sounds like it was a good productive meeting. I believe that the milestones that the team came up (listed below) are appropriate. With the actual implementation specifics unknown until they are complete and published I would propose a 12+ month period for Registrars from the point of OTE availability to the required implementation (cutover). The “+” is due to not knowing the specific implementation details of the system changes that the Registry will be making. Thanks Roger From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Fabien Betremieux Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:34 AM To: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Reminder - Due Wed. 24 Feb. COB - Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, We would like to remind you of the request below. Your input would be very much appreciated before close of business on Wednesday 24 February. Thank you in advance for your attention -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN From: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux@icann.org<mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 11:19 PM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>> Subject: Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, In our last IRT meeting on 11 February the following set of milestones was proposed for the implementation of the transition from thin to thick of new registrations in .COM, .NET and .JOBS: * Finalization of Thick WhoIs Policy * Registries to make system changes * Registrar notification of changes * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in OT&E * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in Production * Registrar notification/transition period * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in OT&E * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in Production It was further agreed that affected parties participating in the IRT would share their requirements in terms of notification periods and duration for each of these phases. With a view to reaching an agreement on an implementation timeline for the existing registration track during our next IRT meeting (currently being planned during the ICANN 55 meeting from 5 to 10 March), we would like to request you provide your input as soon as possible, and at the latest by Wednesday 24 February COB. This would allow for discussion of contributions on the mailing list prior to the meeting. In the meantime, please share on this list any questions you may have in relation to the above milestones. Thank you in advance for your collaboration Best Regards -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN _______________________________________________ Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt
Agreed. Theo Jennifer Gore Standiford schreef op 2016-02-25 02:02 AM:
I support Roger's recommendation for the 12+ month time period for implementation unless the RDAP initiative conflicts with the objectives of the Thick WHOIS implementation. Obviously this initiative is further along in the life cycle than RDAP. The issue regarding Registrars' capacity to adopt functional changes to WHOIS or take steps to replace the current WHOIS system still remains.
Jennifer Standiford
Jennifer
On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Roger D Carney <rcarney@godaddy.com> wrote:
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Good Afternoon,
My apologies for missing the last meeting, it sounds like it was a good productive meeting.
I believe that the milestones that the team came up (listed below) are appropriate.
With the actual implementation specifics unknown until they are complete and published I would propose a 12+ month period for Registrars from the point of OTE availability to the required implementation (cutover). The “+” is due to not knowing the specific implementation details of the system changes that the Registry will be making.
Thanks
Roger
FROM: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] ON BEHALF OF Fabien Betremieux SENT: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:34 AM TO: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org SUBJECT: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Reminder - Due Wed. 24 Feb. COB - Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations
Dear IRT Members,
We would like to remind you of the request below. Your input would be very much appreciated before close of business on Wednesday 24 February.
Thank you in advance for your attention
--
Fabien Betremieux
Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager
Global Domains Division, ICANN
FROM: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux@icann.org> DATE: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 11:19 PM TO: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org> SUBJECT: Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations
Dear IRT Members,
In our last IRT meeting on 11 February the following set of milestones was proposed for the implementation of the transition from thin to thick of new registrations in .COM, .NET and .JOBS:
* Finalization of Thick WhoIs Policy * Registries to make system changes * Registrar notification of changes * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in OT&E * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in Production * Registrar notification/transition period * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in OT&E * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in Production
It was further agreed that affected parties participating in the IRT would share their requirements in terms of notification periods and duration for each of these phases.
With a view to reaching an agreement on an implementation timeline for the existing registration track during our next IRT meeting (currently being planned during the ICANN 55 meeting from 5 to 10 March), we would like to request you provide YOUR INPUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND AT THE LATEST BY WEDNESDAY 24 FEBRUARY COB. This would allow for discussion of contributions on the mailing list prior to the meeting.
In the meantime, please share on this list any questions you may have in relation to the above milestones.
Thank you in advance for your collaboration
Best Regards
--
Fabien Betremieux
Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager
Global Domains Division, ICANN
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Fabien and colleagues, Our overriding concern, which I expressed in the Adobe room on the last IRT call, is the glacial pace at which ICANN is moving to implement the consensus policy on thick Whois. The GNSO first requested an issue report on the question of thick Whois for all gTLD registries 53 months ago, on September 22, 2011. The Policy Development Process on this issue commenced almost 48 months ago, on March 14, 2012. The PDP led to a final report published 28 months ago, on October 21, 2013, and the policy itself was unanimously adopted by the ICANN Board over 24 months ago, on February 7, 2014. When I asked on the call when all registries would be required to implement the thick Whois architecture, I was referred to a timeline providing the date of the end of 2017 - in other words, that it would take almost four years for a single registry operator to implement the consensus policy adopted in February 2014. The Working Group final report that led to this consensus policy stated that "implementation of one part of the recommendation (for example, transition of existing thin gTLD registries to thick model) should not unnecessarily delay the implementation of another part of the recommendation (for example, the consistent labeling and display of such data)." In fact, it seems obvious that exactly the opposite of the "example" envisioned by the PDP working group has occurred: the priority accorded to the consistent labeling and display issues has substantially and unnecessarily delayed the simple goal of requiring the one remaining operator of thin Whois gTLD registries to bring its practices into line with those of every other gTLD registry. The IRT's top priority now should be to set a firm date on which the main recommendation of the PDP Working Group will be implemented. Steve Metalitz, IPC vice president From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Fabien Betremieux Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 4:34 AM To: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Reminder - Due Wed. 24 Feb. COB - Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, We would like to remind you of the request below. Your input would be very much appreciated before close of business on Wednesday 24 February. Thank you in advance for your attention -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN From: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux@icann.org<mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 11:19 PM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org>> Subject: Transition - Input on Implementation Timeline for New Registrations Dear IRT Members, In our last IRT meeting on 11 February the following set of milestones was proposed for the implementation of the transition from thin to thick of new registrations in .COM, .NET and .JOBS: * Finalization of Thick WhoIs Policy * Registries to make system changes * Registrar notification of changes * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in OT&E * Introduction of optional thick (contact support) in Production * Registrar notification/transition period * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in OT&E * Cutover to required thick (contacts) for new registrations in Production It was further agreed that affected parties participating in the IRT would share their requirements in terms of notification periods and duration for each of these phases. With a view to reaching an agreement on an implementation timeline for the existing registration track during our next IRT meeting (currently being planned during the ICANN 55 meeting from 5 to 10 March), we would like to request you provide your input as soon as possible, and at the latest by Wednesday 24 February COB. This would allow for discussion of contributions on the mailing list prior to the meeting. In the meantime, please share on this list any questions you may have in relation to the above milestones. Thank you in advance for your collaboration Best Regards -- Fabien Betremieux Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager Global Domains Division, ICANN
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Roger D Carney