Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 22 July 2014 at 19:00 UTC.
On page:
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jul
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees:
Ronald Andruff – Commercial and Business Users Constituency – Primary – Chair
Greg Shatan – IPC – Alternate
Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee – Alternate
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPs and connectivity providers Constituency (ISPCP) – Primary Member
Avri Doria - Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) – Primary Member
Cintra Sooknanan (Vice-Chair) - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency – Primary Member
Lori Schulman – Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency - Alternate
Amr Elsadr – Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) – Primary Member
Apologies:
Jen Wolfe - Nominating Committee Appointee
ICANN Staff:
Mary Wong
Julie Hedlund
Glen de Saint Gery
Terri Agnew
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 22 July 2014
Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI meeting on the 22nd July 2014 at 19:00 UTC
Ron A:Hello all, I just noted that we will be getting started at 3:04 EDT to all for any late comers.
Ron A:all = allow
Cintra Sooknanan:3.04 very precise
Mary Wong:FYI Ron, I didn't get any notifications of absences/apologies; not sure if Julie or Terri or the Secretariat did ...
Amr Elsadr:Hi. Just Dialled in. Apologies about the prolonged absence. Hope you're all well.
Mary Wong:Welcome back Amr!
Amr Elsadr:Thnx Mary. ;-)
Mary Wong:Hope you (and everyone else on the call, of course) are well.
Amr Elsadr:That IS bad news. :(
Amr Elsadr:Thnx Ron. :-)
Julie Hedlund:All -- I have unsynced the document that is being displayed.
Terri Agnew:Lori Schulman has joined
Lori Schulman:My apologies for the late arrival.
Cintra Sooknanan:I am happy with the text suggested
Ron A:Welcome Lori.
Amr Elsadr:@Greg: True. Just saying IF the need arises, it will be problematic. The conditions for a resubmitted motion are quite clear.
Greg Shatan:@Amr: I think its a problem that could and should be anticipated by the resubmitters.
Amr Elsadr:Yes..., which is why it should be clarified when submitting the suggested language to the Council.
Greg Shatan:Agree it can be noted in the submission.
Mary Wong:@Greg, agreed. And to the extent there is that overlap, the provision does have a safeguard in the need for a unanimous vote to allow it.
Greg Shatan:I missed the call. :-(
Amr Elsadr:The language suggeste exceptional basis to me.
Amr Elsadr:*suggests
Mary Wong:That was my takeaway as well, Ron.
Amr Elsadr:There have actually been irregularly scheduled council meetings in which votes have taken place.
Amr Elsadr:@Mary: +1
Mary Wong:Or how about taking out "for inclusion on the agenda for a regularly scheduled GNSO Council meeting" so that it just reads "submitted in accordance with these Op Procs"?
Lori Schulman:You use "regularly scheduled" in Section 2, bullet 3.
Mary Wong:That's true
Amr Elsadr:I think the context is different in those bullets.
Amr Elsadr:as well as in 1 bullet 3.
Amr Elsadr:@Greg: +1
Lori Schulman:Then maybe define "regularly scheduled"?
Lori Schulman:It might be confusing.
Lori Schulman:No intention to wreak havoc.
Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Isn't this beyond the scope of this issue?
Amr Elsadr:We're talking about email voting here.
Mary Wong:@Avri, that is correct (as to why the phrase is being used here).
Mary Wong:No worries, Ron :)
Mary Wong:This language will permit the Council to have a special meeting but not necessarily take a live vote at that special meeting (for some good reason).
Mary Wong:In that, they can do an e-vote after the special meeting but perhaps before the next "regularly scheduled" Council meeting, ie more flexibility.
Mary Wong:@Greg, that is correct.
Mary Wong:Though I'd advise leaving it in for the first sentence - it doesn't add confusion but reflects the usage elsewhere so prob no harm leaving it in?
Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. I don't understand why we need to take them out of these three sentances. They seem relevant to me.
Greg Shatan:We're only suggesting taking them out of Section 5. Leaving them in elsewhere.
Lori Schulman:There is static. Can't hear.
Terri Agnew:You are breaking up
Mary Wong:Amr sounds like he's in a high wind ...
Amr Elsadr:Not here, but I hear it too.
Terri Agnew:We are trying to find the line causing noise
Lori Schulman:HIgh wind sound for sure.
Greg Shatan:It stopped.
Greg Shatan:And it's back.
Lori Schulman:I understand as removing it from second sentence in %.
Lori Schulman:5
Greg Shatan:The Wind Cries Mary.
Lori Schulman:Wait, in actions, Mary just typed take out "regularly scheduled" in the 2 instances. I thought we said the second instance.
Julie Hedlund:@Lori -- I wrote that because that is what I thought I heard Ron say.
Greg Shatan:I had suggested both instances in 5.
Greg Shatan:That is what Ron said....
Lori Schulman:I think it makes sense in the first instance but not the second. The second instance is where removal gives the GNSO more flexibility.
Amr Elsadr:From a technical perspective, I'm curious how the ability to submit comments along with the ballots would be done.
Lori Schulman:I mean leave it in in the first instance. Remove in second.
Ron A:Yes, Lori. more flexibility is what this particular issue is about.
Lori Schulman:Then the first instance distinguishes between "outside" and regularly scheduled meetings and should stay in for clarity.
Lori Schulman:The second instance is what should be removed for flexiblity. At least, that is how I understand it.
Avri Doria:btw, i have never been white water rafting, but after this meeting i realize i need to add it to my list of things to do. i mean i said it twice.
Lori Schulman:I think I see.
Lori Schulman:Sorry Julie.
Lori Schulman:Just trying to keep up.
Greg Shatan:I move that we all go white water rafting.
Mary Wong::)
Julie Hedlund:Sounds fun!
Lori Schulman:Does that mean we are up the creek without a paddle?
Mary Wong:LOL, Lori!
Cintra Sooknanan:5 August
Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone!
Cintra Sooknanan:Thanks, Good bye
Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone. Bye.
Ron A:Thanks all! Enjoy your summer!
Lori Schulman:Have fun! I will be in the woods...rafting for real in West Virginia.
Ron A:Enjoy Lori!!!
Lori Schulman:Thanks.