Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. _____ From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Thanks Ron. What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 16:40 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. ________________________________ From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Wolf-Ulrich, Perhaps we can organize a 20-30 minute meeting towards the end of a day? We could even meet in the lobby of the hotel, for example. It needn't be a serious formal meeting, in my view. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. _____ From: KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:54 AM To: randruff@rnapartners.com; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks Ron. What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich _____ Von: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 16:40 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. _____ From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Yes, thanks, Wolf-Ulrich, for marshaling us and summarizing the various activities we should be undertaking. On the 3 specific items you mention, here is my initial (brief) reaction/feedback: - Consent agenda: I'd like to know more about what goes into the ICANN Board's thinking behind items to include (or not); and if possible, what generally (outside ICANN-land) that sort of thing means and how it's done, e.g. at major non-profit orgs. Is there a way to find this out? I hesitate to load it on to ICANN staff but perhaps if others think it useful there could be a brief enquiry to Diane Schroeder as well as to reps of bigger non-profits? I agree it should form part of the GNSO rules once the process is finalized. - Reminder letter: I support this idea as well. - Survey: I support this idea; a question that occurs to me is what the best timing would be, e.g. should we let a bit more time elapse before doing it, or after another couple of WGs under the process have completed their work? Happy to meet F2F in Costa Rica if an appropriate time can be found. As Ron says, it needn't be long or formal. Cheers, and safe travels to all, Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: <KnobenW@telekom.de> To:<randruff@rnapartners.com>, <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Date: 2/23/2012 12:16 PM Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks Ron. What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Von: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 16:40 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: · The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement · If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Mary, thanks for your thoughts. to 1: I think there must be a history "on Board" where it comes from and how they deal with it. No problem to ask board members how it happened, to 2: I'm still expecting more comments and shall follow-up then to 3: we've to find a "quiet corner", and I'll try to manage this Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu [mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 19:34 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org; randruff@rnapartners.com; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Betreff: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Yes, thanks, Wolf-Ulrich, for marshaling us and summarizing the various activities we should be undertaking. On the 3 specific items you mention, here is my initial (brief) reaction/feedback: - Consent agenda: I'd like to know more about what goes into the ICANN Board's thinking behind items to include (or not); and if possible, what generally (outside ICANN-land) that sort of thing means and how it's done, e.g. at major non-profit orgs. Is there a way to find this out? I hesitate to load it on to ICANN staff but perhaps if others think it useful there could be a brief enquiry to Diane Schroeder as well as to reps of bigger non-profits? I agree it should form part of the GNSO rules once the process is finalized. - Reminder letter: I support this idea as well. - Survey: I support this idea; a question that occurs to me is what the best timing would be, e.g. should we let a bit more time elapse before doing it, or after another couple of WGs under the process have completed their work? Happy to meet F2F in Costa Rica if an appropriate time can be found. As Ron says, it needn't be long or formal. Cheers, and safe travels to all, Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: <KnobenW@telekom.de> To: <randruff@rnapartners.com>, <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Date: 2/23/2012 12:16 PM Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks Ron. What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 16:40 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. ________________________________ From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Dear All, I'll also follow up internally to see if there is any further information available with regard to the procedures the Board uses for its consent agenda. With regard to meeting in Costa Rica, usually there are also some rooms available which staff can sign up for on the spot. It should be noted that such rooms are available on a first come, first serve basis and no additional services are provided (recording, Adobe Connect, etc.). If there is a preferred time / day for an informal meeting of the SCI, I'm happy to check whether a room would be available. However, I would only be able to confirm this upon arrival in Costa Rica. Should we set up a doodle poll to confirm the best time / day for such an informal meeting, which would also include the time/date suggested by Wolf? With best regards, Marika From: "KnobenW@telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de>" <KnobenW@telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:43 -0800 To: "Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>>, "randruff@rnapartners.com<mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com>" <randruff@rnapartners.com<mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com>> Subject: AW: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Mary, thanks for your thoughts. to 1: I think there must be a history "on Board" where it comes from and how they deal with it. No problem to ask board members how it happened, to 2: I'm still expecting more comments and shall follow-up then to 3: we've to find a "quiet corner", and I'll try to manage this Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu> [mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 19:34 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>; randruff@rnapartners.com<mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com>; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Betreff: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Yes, thanks, Wolf-Ulrich, for marshaling us and summarizing the various activities we should be undertaking. On the 3 specific items you mention, here is my initial (brief) reaction/feedback: - Consent agenda: I'd like to know more about what goes into the ICANN Board's thinking behind items to include (or not); and if possible, what generally (outside ICANN-land) that sort of thing means and how it's done, e.g. at major non-profit orgs. Is there a way to find this out? I hesitate to load it on to ICANN staff but perhaps if others think it useful there could be a brief enquiry to Diane Schroeder as well as to reps of bigger non-profits? I agree it should form part of the GNSO rules once the process is finalized. - Reminder letter: I support this idea as well. - Survey: I support this idea; a question that occurs to me is what the best timing would be, e.g. should we let a bit more time elapse before doing it, or after another couple of WGs under the process have completed their work? Happy to meet F2F in Costa Rica if an appropriate time can be found. As Ron says, it needn't be long or formal. Cheers, and safe travels to all, Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu<mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: <KnobenW@telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de>> To: <randruff@rnapartners.com<mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com>>, <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Date: 2/23/2012 12:16 PM Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks Ron. What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 16:40 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for bringing some focus to the SCI, Wolf-Ulrich. I support the idea of sending out a reminder to let everyone know that the SCI exists to support fine tuning of processes. I also support a f-2-f meeting in Costa Rica to discuss the other items you note below. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. ________________________________ From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: · The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement · If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday. avri
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP * Suite 700 One South Church Avenue * Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 * Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com * www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:23 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday. avri ---------------------- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer
The GNSO sessions start at 10 a.m. Armed with some good, strong Costa Rican coffee, I think I can handle meeting F2F before that ... :) I wonder if anyone will ask the SCI to look at the "improved" bicameral House and Stakeholder Group/Constituency structure and see if it's working .... (yikes!) Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@lrlaw.com> To:"'Avri Doria'" <avri@acm.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Date: 3/5/2012 6:31 PM Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP * Suite 700 One South Church Avenue * Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 * Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com * www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:23 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday. avri ---------------------- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer
Hi, I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done. avri On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
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On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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Thanks for all responses. Let's try to hold a meeting on Saturday 9:00 am. I know its a challenge for Glen and Marika but if we get a room at least that would be fine. Marika, Glen could you help plsease? I'll send out a short agenda later this week. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 00:39 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Hi, I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done. avri On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
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On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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OK will do! Glen ----- Message d'origine ----- De : KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Envoyé : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:15 PM À : avri@acm.org <avri@acm.org>; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc : Glen de Saint Géry Objet : AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for all responses. Let's try to hold a meeting on Saturday 9:00 am. I know its a challenge for Glen and Marika but if we get a room at least that would be fine. Marika, Glen could you help plsease? I'll send out a short agenda later this week. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 00:39 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Hi, I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done. avri On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
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On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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All, the SCI meeting is scheduled for Sat, 10 Mar, 09:00-10:00 am, in Room La Paz B. Attached is a draft agenda. Looking forward to seeing you and Save travels Wolf-Ulrich
Dear Avri and wolf-Ulrich, We have a room, La Paz B, for the SCI meeting on Saturday 10 March however, there will be no telephone connection, Adobe Connect, audio streaming or transcription for the meeting due to the lateness of the request because all the requests had to be in by 3 February in order to have all the facilities. Our apologies for this inconvenience. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org -----Message d'origine----- De : KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Envoyé : mardi 6 mars 2012 08:16 À : avri@acm.org; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc : Glen de Saint Géry Objet : AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Thanks for all responses. Let's try to hold a meeting on Saturday 9:00 am. I know its a challenge for Glen and Marika but if we get a room at least that would be fine. Marika, Glen could you help plsease? I'll send out a short agenda later this week. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 00:39 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Hi, I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done. avri On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
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On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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Hi, Thanks for this Glen. BTW, I won't be there on Saturday, not coming in until Saturday evening. avri On 8 Mar 2012, at 13:05, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Avri and wolf-Ulrich,
We have a room, La Paz B, for the SCI meeting on Saturday 10 March however, there will be no telephone connection, Adobe Connect, audio streaming or transcription for the meeting due to the lateness of the request because all the requests had to be in by 3 February in order to have all the facilities.
Our apologies for this inconvenience. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-----Message d'origine----- De : KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Envoyé : mardi 6 mars 2012 08:16 À : avri@acm.org; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc : Glen de Saint Géry Objet : AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
Thanks for all responses. Let's try to hold a meeting on Saturday 9:00 am. I know its a challenge for Glen and Marika but if we get a room at least that would be fine. Marika, Glen could you help plsease? I'll send out a short agenda later this week.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 00:39 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
Hi,
I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am
Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done.
avri
On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
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-----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:23 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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Good to know, Avri. But don't worry - I won't be there either (because that's over)...:-) Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@acm.org] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Mai 2012 23:36 An: Glen de Saint Géry Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org; Marika Konings Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Hi, Thanks for this Glen. BTW, I won't be there on Saturday, not coming in until Saturday evening. avri On 8 Mar 2012, at 13:05, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
Dear Avri and wolf-Ulrich,
We have a room, La Paz B, for the SCI meeting on Saturday 10 March however, there will be no telephone connection, Adobe Connect, audio streaming or transcription for the meeting due to the lateness of the request because all the requests had to be in by 3 February in order to have all the facilities.
Our apologies for this inconvenience. Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
-----Message d'origine----- De : KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Envoyé : mardi 6 mars 2012 08:16 À : avri@acm.org; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc : Glen de Saint Géry Objet : AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
Thanks for all responses. Let's try to hold a meeting on Saturday 9:00 am. I know its a challenge for Glen and Marika but if we get a room at least that would be fine. Marika, Glen could you help plsease? I'll send out a short agenda later this week.
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 00:39 An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
Hi,
I think that was the point at about Saturday before 10am
Meeting during breaks gets harder because people tend to go huddle amongst their own kind during those breaks (except for the few who flit from group to group). And before you know it, the break is done.
avri
On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:29, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
When does the GNSO start its Saturday work session? Shouldn't we meet before that or during one of their breaks? Anne
Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP * Suite 700 One South Church Avenue * Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 * Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com * www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:23 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity
On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:54, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
What do others think about an F2F meeting in CR? This seems to be relatively difficult to manage since we're already close to the CR meeting. The only timeslot I could see would be on Saturday morning before 10:00 a.m. But this should be confirmed by Glen - in case more people opt for this.
Assuming we can find a time that works for most, seems like an ok idea. i think i can handle before 10am Saturday.
avri
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Thanks for reengaging us Wolf-Ulrich. Apologies for the tardy response, but here's feedback on the three items you outlined: 1. In principle, a consent agenda makes sense but a definition of when and how it is used would be helpful. I like others suggestion of looking at how the Board does it, and go from there. Also a consent agenda could make things go much faster, but any "objector" should be given the chance to modify or address their concerns. Some topics could be kept in the Consent Agenda if only minor changes are made. 2. A reminder message about the SCI is a good suggestion. 3. Happy to participate in a F2F in Costa Rica, schedule permitting. Krista Papac Chief Strategy Officer AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd Email: krista.papac@ausregistry.com<mailto:krista.papac@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistry.com From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of KnobenW@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:48 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Dear SCI members, after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee. 1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda). 3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council. Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings". 2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment. 3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points: * The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement * If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome! I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
Hi, A late response. And to think I am supposed to be the v-chair. Anyway. I. I am very nervous about the consent agenda idea. I would like to hear more about 1. Who gets to put it in the consent agenda. Is the chair alone enough or does it need unanimous consent of the leadership threesome 2. Does it need to be on the consent agenda when the agenda is first published? 3. is one person enough to remove it from the consent agenda? 4. How much time does someone have to remove it from the consent agenda? Can it be removed at the last minute? 5. What can and can't be put on a consent agenda: a issue report request, a pdp vote, charters, drafting team policy recommendations, canceling a comment period? I am inclined against it. And incidentally was not happy the Board started doing it either. I think too much stuff can either get swept under the rug, or passed without adequate discussion using such a mechanism. II. I think reminding people of the function and existence of the SCI is a good idea. And a letter is fine. Perhaps not this time around but next, we can arrange for each member of the group to give a std presentation to their SG?Con the goings on, or lack thereof of the group. III. Oh no, not another survey effort!!! At this point I think this might be better done by the group reps and that standard presentation I spoke of. the SCI reps should be the ones working their SG/C for problems or issues. And if there are now, we should be happy that no problems have arisen. III. Have we created our schedule yet of the periodic review processes we were going to be responsible for. Perhaps we should pick something this year for review. avri On 22 Feb 2012, at 18:48, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote:
Dear SCI members,
after a phase of silent months it's now the right moment to put some items to the table which need input and recommendations from this committee.
1. Rules of procedure (http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16dec11-en.pdf) The GNSO council had a successful first run trial re a consent agenda which should be put in a formal process. One rugh suggestion for this is as follows: 1. The Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to said item being in the consent agenda. If any opposition is voiced, then that item is dropped from the consent agenda (and can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda).
2. If no opposition is voiced to the item being on the consent agenda, the Chair or meeting leader calls for any opposition to the item itself. If any opposition is voiced, then no action is taken (and the item can be re-introduced at any time in the main agenda).
3. If no opposition, the consent agenda item is deemed approved by theGNSO Council.
Obviously we need to discuss this in more detail, e.g. the goal of a consent agenda, which items could be included to a consent agenda and which should definitely be excluded e.a. It seems to make sense to include the text - once recommended - into chapter 3.0 of the rules "GNSO Council Meetings".
2. As discussed in Dakar, it might be worth sending out a reminder to the GNSO Council and SG/C leaders regarding the mandate of the SCI and the opportunity that exists to request review of GNSO Improvement related items. To this end, thanks to Marika the attached draft letter has been prepared for your consideration. Please feel free to comment.
3. Furthermore, in order to obtain feedback from WGs/DT on their experience with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines - as it is intended in the SCI charter - , it might be useful to develop a short survey which could facilitate data gathering and input. In order to kick off the discussion here are some bullet points:
• The objective of the survey would be to determine whether there are any issues that were encountered by WG/Dts with the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, and/or identify areas for improvement • If deemed effective, such a survey could become a standard part of the self-evaluation process of WGs and provide the SCI with regular input on the status of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines
Ideas for items to be included in the survey are welcome!
I appreciate very much your response and hope to see most of you in Costa Rica. Kind regards
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
<Outreach letter SCI.doc>
I should think review of the revised PDP guidelines over the next year might be appropriate. Not sure to what extent we want to survey as to WG issues that arose before that. Some of the issues encountered there may well be addressed by the new PDP guidelines. Could someone please educate me as to the top GNSO improvements (other than new PDP) over the past couple of years? As J. Scott's alternate, very happy to meet in Costa Rica per schedule to be proposed by Wolf-Ulrich. Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP • Suite 700 One South Church Avenue • Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 • Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com • www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. ________________________________ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com<http://www.lewisandroca.com/>. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer.
Hi Anne, I'm not sure whether you are referring to the GNSO WG Guidelines or the revised GNSO PDP. With regard to the latter, the revised GNSO PDP only entered into force on 8 December of last year and even though all ongoing PDPs have now converted to the revised GNSO PDP, there has not been a PDP that has been conducted from start to finish under these new rules yet. It also might be worth pointing out that the WT responsible for developing this revised PDP recommended that 'periodic assessment of the overall PDP process is important, noting that a certain threshold of completed PDPs should be met before an overall review is carried out'. As a reminder, I've attached the overview of the GNSO Improvement documents relevant to the SCI. I hope this is helpful. With best regards, Marika From: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@lrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:13:37 -0800 To: Avri Doria <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity I should think review of the revised PDP guidelines over the next year might be appropriate. Not sure to what extent we want to survey as to WG issues that arose before that. Some of the issues encountered there may well be addressed by the new PDP guidelines. Could someone please educate me as to the top GNSO improvements (other than new PDP) over the past couple of years? As J. Scott's alternate, very happy to meet in Costa Rica per schedule to be proposed by Wolf-Ulrich. Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP • Suite 700 One South Church Avenue • Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 • Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRLaw.com> • www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. ________________________________ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com<http://www.lewisandroca.com/>. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer.
And now with the attachment. Apologies for that. Marika From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:35:35 -0800 To: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@lrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com>>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity Hi Anne, I'm not sure whether you are referring to the GNSO WG Guidelines or the revised GNSO PDP. With regard to the latter, the revised GNSO PDP only entered into force on 8 December of last year and even though all ongoing PDPs have now converted to the revised GNSO PDP, there has not been a PDP that has been conducted from start to finish under these new rules yet. It also might be worth pointing out that the WT responsible for developing this revised PDP recommended that 'periodic assessment of the overall PDP process is important, noting that a certain threshold of completed PDPs should be met before an overall review is carried out'. As a reminder, I've attached the overview of the GNSO Improvement documents relevant to the SCI. I hope this is helpful. With best regards, Marika From: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@lrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:13:37 -0800 To: Avri Doria <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI activity I should think review of the revised PDP guidelines over the next year might be appropriate. Not sure to what extent we want to survey as to WG issues that arose before that. Some of the issues encountered there may well be addressed by the new PDP guidelines. Could someone please educate me as to the top GNSO improvements (other than new PDP) over the past couple of years? As J. Scott's alternate, very happy to meet in Costa Rica per schedule to be proposed by Wolf-Ulrich. Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel Lewis and Roca LLP • Suite 700 One South Church Avenue • Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 Tel (520) 629-4428 • Fax (520) 879-4725 AAikman@LRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRLaw.com> • www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This e-mail contains legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named within the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and delete the original message. ________________________________ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com<http://www.lewisandroca.com/>. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer.
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Aikman-Scalese, Anne -
Avri Doria -
Glen de Saint Géry -
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Krista Papac -
Marika Konings -
Mary.Wong＠law.unh.edu -
Ron Andruff