Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 11 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC. http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140211-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct>feb (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Alternate Anne Aikman Scalese - Intellectual Property Constituency - Primary Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC Alternative Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Avri Doria - Non Commercial SG - Primary - Vice-Chair Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary - SCI Vice Chair Amr Elsadr - NCUC Alternate Apologies: Thomas Rickert Julie Hedlund Mary Wong ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Glen de Saint Géry ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org Adobe Chat Transcript 11 February 2014 Marika Konings:Welcome to the SCI meeting of 11 February 2014 Ron A:Nice to see you Glen and Marika Ron A:just dialing in now... Marie-laure Lemineur:Hello Cintra Sooknanan1:Hello everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:Jamaica has a bob sled team! Marika Konings:Actually just noticed that Germany has pushed us to the 4th place now :-(( Marika Konings:We'll need some more skating medals obviously ;-) Ron A:Still some days to go Marika! ;o) Cintra Sooknanan1:Thanks so much for the dial out Glen Glen de Saint Gery:my pleasure, sorry we had the wrong number Cintra! Cintra Sooknanan1:it was my mistake, but all good Amr Elsadr:Sorry I'm late. Dialling in now. Avri Doria:seems lik we should alwasy worry about making sense. Avri Doria:are we really openning this again? Avri Doria:we only have 1 level of full consensus, and one level of near consensus,. all the others are not consensus at all. Avri Doria:and we call near consensus gnso consensus Avri Doria:i can speak, but my point is tangential Ron A:@ AVri: please do speak Anne Aikman-Scalese:The SCI could consider the following potential actions:* Add a new Consensus Level defining "Consensus Against" to the GNSO WG Guidelines* Without adding a new Consensus Level, clarify that the existing definition/description of "Consensus" includes situations appropriately determined to be "Consensus Against"* In either case, determine if the current "Divergence" level needs to be amended, e.g.:- Does "Divergence" always equate to "No Consensus"?- Does "Divergence" always mean there is a plurality of views?- Does the current definition/description of "Divergence" require clarification or amendment?* Determine that the current Consensus Levels are adequate to cover even the situation experienced by the IGO-INGO PDP WG. Ron A:@ Avri: good clarification of levels Marika Konings:From the SCI Charter: On a periodic timescale for all procedures and guidelines in order to identify possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which procedures and guidelines should be reviewed) Marie-laure Lemineur:Cintra could you please speak louder or closer to the mic Marie-laure Lemineur:please? Marika Konings:which was preceded by: 'Its tasks include making recommendations' Amr Elsadr:@Avri + Marika: Yes..., the proposed changes on this excercise should probably address all the levels of consensus/decision-making, not just full consensus. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Is the straw poll a voting member or everyone? Marika Konings:@ Amr - if the SCI decides that changes are necessary... Avri Doria:poll question makes not sense to me. i think it is broader that consensus against, but not as wide as the kettle of fish. Avri Doria:call it just decsions making level and not consensusus against and i will understand Anne Aikman-Scalese:Not my intent -but how caqn you avoid it if you are looking at them relatively? Amr Elsadr:I just changed from and X to a check. Good thing Ron clarified what the X and check would be for. :) Amr Elsadr:*an X Marie-laure Lemineur:but narrow approach as a first step and than open at a later stage ? Marie-laure Lemineur:open discussion Avri Doria:a binary decsion ofn a multi-part decsion is bound to be problematic. 1 just consensus against, 2 negation of any of the decision level, 3 review of the over decsion making procedures in all their glory, 4, review of the wg guidelines Avri Doria:3. review of the other decsions making procedures in all their glory Avri Doria:i favor 2 or 3 Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Thanks. Great recommendation to move forward. Avri Doria:i do not think i am on the sub team Cintra Sooknanan1:all good thanks for the direction Amr Elsadr:Will this be a closed or open meeting? Wolf Knoben:open Amr Elsadr:Thanks Wolf. I ask because it wasn't posted on the schedule of the BA meeting. I wasn't sure. Marika Konings:in two weeks, next meeting would be 25 February Amr Elsadr:Ah! Thanks. :) Anne Aikman-Scalese:THank you everyone! Marie-laure Lemineur:Thank you Ron and everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:thanks have a great day Cintra Sooknanan1:bye