Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Hi Anne, We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list. Thanks, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning¹s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne
Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees:
Anne Aikman Scalese IPC Primary - Chair
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ISPCP - Primary
Rudi Vansnick NPOC - Primary
Amr Elsadr NCUC - Primary
Avri Doria NCSG Primary
Lori Schulman IPC - Alternate
Apologies:
None
ICANN Staff:
Julie Hedlund
Mary Wong
Terri Agnew
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you. Kind regards,
Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
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Dear Anne, Dear all, I’m also in favor of integrating Mary’s (Amr’s) changes to the text before posting it to the list. I will be traveling from today 14:00 UTC till Thursday 9:00am AGT. Safe travels and see you in BA. Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/> rudi.vansnick@npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
Op 16-jun.-2015, om 20:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
Hi Anne,
We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.
Thanks, Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com <mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org <mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning’s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne
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From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees: Anne Aikman Scalese – IPC – Primary - Chair Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP - Primary Rudi Vansnick – NPOC - Primary Amr Elsadr – NCUC - Primary Avri Doria – NCSG – Primary Lori Schulman – IPC - Alternate
Apologies: None
ICANN Staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
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Dear Anne, Dear all, As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I’m willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I’m having some more free time to make available for this task. See you all in BA. Best regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/> rudi.vansnick@npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
Hi Anne,
We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.
Thanks, Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com <mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org <mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning’s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne
<image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com <mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees: Anne Aikman Scalese – IPC – Primary - Chair Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP - Primary Rudi Vansnick – NPOC - Primary Amr Elsadr – NCUC - Primary Avri Doria – NCSG – Primary Lori Schulman – IPC - Alternate
Apologies: None
ICANN Staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
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I really welcome your fearlessness, Rudi! You’ll have my support. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rudi Vansnick Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:59 AM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne Cc: Terri Agnew ; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org ; gnso-secs@icann.org ; Julie Hedlund Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Dear Anne, Dear all, As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I’m willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I’m having some more free time to make available for this task. See you all in BA. Best regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick@npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven: Hi Anne, We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list. Thanks, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning’s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room. Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne <image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Anne Aikman Scalese – IPC – Primary - Chair Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP - Primary Rudi Vansnick – NPOC - Primary Amr Elsadr – NCUC - Primary Avri Doria – NCSG – Primary Lori Schulman – IPC - Alternate Apologies: None ICANN Staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. 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Fantastic news Rudi - very helpful. Yesterday my plane had to make an emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it before Saturday morning. Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in place. Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official - assuming there are no other volunteers? Anne [cid:image001.gif@01D0AA90.F62A3C40] Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/> From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org; Julie Hedlund Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Importance: High Dear Anne, Dear all, As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I'm willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I'm having some more free time to make available for this task. See you all in BA. Best regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org> rudi.vansnick@npoc.org<mailto:rudi.vansnick@npoc.org> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> het volgende geschreven: Hi Anne, We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list. Thanks, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning's meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room. Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne <image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate Apologies: None ICANN Staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. 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Anne, In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair nominations/volunteers during a meeting. So, we could put the position of the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting, if you agree. Kind regards, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com> Date: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM To: 'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick@isoc.be> Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>, "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Fantastic news Rudi very helpful. Yesterday my plane had to make an emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it before Saturday morning. Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in place.
Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official assuming there are no other volunteers?
Anne
Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org; Julie Hedlund Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Importance: High
Dear Anne,
Dear all,
As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I¹m willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I¹m having some more free time to make available for this task.
See you all in BA.
Best regards,
Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
rudi.vansnick@npoc.org
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
Hi Anne,
We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.
Thanks,
Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning¹s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
Thank you,
Anne
<image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
Attendees:
Anne Aikman Scalese IPC Primary - Chair
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ISPCP - Primary
Rudi Vansnick NPOC - Primary
Amr Elsadr NCUC - Primary
Avri Doria NCSG Primary
Lori Schulman IPC - Alternate
Apologies:
None
ICANN Staff:
Julie Hedlund
Mary Wong
Terri Agnew
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you. Kind regards,
Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting.
Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions?
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it.
Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions.
Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction
Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything.
Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
Lori Schulman:yes. agree.
Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
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Absolutely - let's address this first. Anne [cid:image001.gif@01D0AB01.57B0DCB0] Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/> From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:22 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Rudi Vansnick' Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Anne, In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair nominations/volunteers during a meeting. So, we could put the position of the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting, if you agree. Kind regards, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com>> Date: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM To: 'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick@isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be>> Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>>, "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Fantastic news Rudi - very helpful. Yesterday my plane had to make an emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it before Saturday morning. Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in place. Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official - assuming there are no other volunteers? Anne [cid:image001.gif@01D0AB01.57B0DCB0] Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/> From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>; Julie Hedlund Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Importance: High Dear Anne, Dear all, As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I'm willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I'm having some more free time to make available for this task. See you all in BA. Best regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org> rudi.vansnick@npoc.org<mailto:rudi.vansnick@npoc.org> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> het volgende geschreven: Hi Anne, We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list. Thanks, Julie From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning's meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room. Could staff please advise as to status of this effort? Thank you, Anne <image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP | One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 AAikman@LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/> From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015 Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate Apologies: None ICANN Staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015 Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol? Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting. Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne. Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule? Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ? Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2." Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most were ok with it. Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did. Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ? Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen?? Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :) Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted. Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie. Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :) Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great discussions. Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1 Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck. Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly. Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was. Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it. Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft. Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving anything. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos Aires. Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o. Lori Schulman:yes. agree. Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning. Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :) Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45 Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00 Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through? Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided. Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well. Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks! Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely. Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :( Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides. Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye. 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