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<node CREATED="1363018868236" ID="ID_1524311134" MODIFIED="1363019254612" POSITION="right" TEXT="Question Zero">
<node CREATED="1363019254612" ID="ID_646821239" MODIFIED="1363019263047" TEXT="Background session first?">
<node CREATED="1363019334632" ID="ID_1679073471" MODIFIED="1363019348267" TEXT="Maybe look to the slides in the Initial Report?"/>
<node CREATED="1363019353847" ID="ID_405610533" MODIFIED="1363019379159" TEXT="Maybe one of the registry reps could take a look at those and determine whether they would be a good basis for a session?"/>
<node CREATED="1363019383479" ID="ID_400917872" MODIFIED="1363019425757" TEXT="Maybe also reach out to some of the providers -- at least for TDRP?"/>
<node CREATED="1363019426431" ID="ID_366679881" MODIFIED="1363019448933" TEXT="Barbara Knight has stepped forward -- LARS gets to forward the slides to her">
<node CREATED="1364228424374" ID="ID_1929197847" MODIFIED="1364228471183" TEXT="Action:  Barbara to develop a process diagram of the current practice would be really helpful"/>
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<node CREATED="1364225864812" ID="ID_632893079" MODIFIED="1364225876140" POSITION="right" TEXT="Charter question discussion">
<node CREATED="1363019478565" ID="ID_696752061" MODIFIED="1363019481433" TEXT="a) Whether reporting requirements for registries and dispute providers should be developed, in order to make precedent and trend information available to the community and allow reference to past cases in dispute submissions;">
<node CREATED="1363019553872" ID="ID_1992390028" MODIFIED="1363019571962" TEXT="What has changed since this question was posed?"/>
<node CREATED="1363020457565" ID="ID_1512429815" MODIFIED="1363020467690" TEXT="Poll stakeholders for their sentiment?"/>
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<node CREATED="1363020283179" ID="ID_514340235" MODIFIED="1363020285710" TEXT="b) Whether additional provisions should be included in the TDRP (Transfer Dispute Resolution Policy) on how to handle disputes when multiple transfers have occurred;">
<node CREATED="1364228040050" ID="ID_68618835" MODIFIED="1364228051187" TEXT="Sometimes called &quot;domain laundering&quot;">
<node CREATED="1364228077500" ID="ID_1092383337" MODIFIED="1364228108214" TEXT="this would confound efforts of Registrars to work through this at their level -- thus only the Registries could address it"/>
<node CREATED="1364228123907" ID="ID_1706991379" MODIFIED="1364228138758" TEXT="Use case -- during sunrise"/>
<node CREATED="1364228139252" ID="ID_667339247" MODIFIED="1364228169785" TEXT="When this was written, less-mature aftermarket -- which may make it easier to hijack/launder"/>
<node CREATED="1364228197459" ID="ID_1599455505" MODIFIED="1364228217159" TEXT="Much of this may have been addressed in IRTP-C -- 30 day window, and owner-change rules"/>
<node CREATED="1364228249897" ID="ID_1264167074" MODIFIED="1364228286381" TEXT="How is TDRP being used today -- often?  only needed for very unusual events"/>
<node CREATED="1364228677252" ID="ID_1005581864" MODIFIED="1364228723355" TEXT="TDRP applies to all gTLDs -- but registry operators can also put supplimental rules in place -- and registrars agree to those rules ">
<node CREATED="1364228724119" ID="ID_43913548" MODIFIED="1364228739825" TEXT="Action: poll registries with regard to supplimental rules"/>
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<node CREATED="1363020404555" ID="ID_588568384" MODIFIED="1364227645013" TEXT="This one is a good candidate for &quot;more data&quot; to determine whether there is really a problem">
<node CREATED="1363020480561" ID="ID_1672087838" MODIFIED="1363020491664" TEXT="Anonymizing"/>
<node CREATED="1363020574105" ID="ID_110922376" MODIFIED="1363020591722" TEXT="Likely easier to get data from registrars &quot;early&quot; in the chain"/>
<node CREATED="1363020614943" ID="ID_188122116" MODIFIED="1363020626373" TEXT="Acknowledge that the data may be biased in this way"/>
<node CREATED="1363020644935" ID="ID_1962226101" MODIFIED="1363020677306" TEXT="May be indicative but not complete, as its going to be harder to get data from &quot;late in the chain&quot; registrars"/>
<node CREATED="1363020860137" ID="ID_1756904441" MODIFIED="1363020898139" TEXT="At the registry level, very few data points"/>
<node CREATED="1363020975967" ID="ID_1375121147" MODIFIED="1363021009503" TEXT="Registrars also have a hard time identifying these -- because they tend to look like a transfer.  So complaints are about the only way to tell"/>
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<node CREATED="1364227800525" ID="ID_137600184" MODIFIED="1364227816591" TEXT="Questions to ask">
<node CREATED="1364227816638" ID="ID_1415993339" MODIFIED="1364227824927" TEXT="How common is this?">
<node CREATED="1364227881131" ID="ID_481186561" MODIFIED="1364227900966" TEXT="Urgent/emergency issues tend to be handled before TDRP"/>
<node CREATED="1364227976531" ID="ID_1301563637" MODIFIED="1364227997199" TEXT="Verisign is seeing less of this today than in the past"/>
<node CREATED="1364228636268" ID="ID_1657743876" MODIFIED="1364228655337" TEXT="Two kinds of statistics -- how common for registries.  how common for registrars?"/>
<node CREATED="1364229053858" ID="ID_204765412" MODIFIED="1364229086832" TEXT="Don&apos;t leave 3rd party dispute resolution providers in the statistics-collection process">
<node CREATED="1364229089926" ID="ID_458327867" MODIFIED="1364229094538" TEXT="3-5/month"/>
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<node CREATED="1364228755642" ID="ID_664509211" MODIFIED="1364228791519" TEXT="What are the implications, from the reigstrants&apos; point of view -- what would they do, how would they recover the money they&apos;ve spent, what would their recourse be?">
<node CREATED="1364228850356" ID="ID_690924319" MODIFIED="1364228892815" TEXT="it will be hard for Ry/Rrs to determine whether transfers have been done in good faith "/>
<node CREATED="1364228917817" ID="ID_127436081" MODIFIED="1364228917817" TEXT="he problem exists when people come into possession of stolen merchandise in any scenario"/>
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<node CREATED="1364227944379" ID="ID_348179585" MODIFIED="1364227959300" TEXT="Hard to recreate the scenarios that this question was posed to address"/>
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<node CREATED="1364226050076" ID="ID_1465660822" MODIFIED="1364226050076" TEXT="c) Whether dispute options for registrants should be developed and implemented as part of the policy (registrants currently depend on registrars to initiate a dispute on their behalf);">
<node CREATED="1364228987955" ID="ID_1688381311" MODIFIED="1364229015440" TEXT="Current situation:  Registrar is the &quot;gatekeeper&quot; between registrants and this process">
<node CREATED="1364229345662" ID="ID_1138110395" MODIFIED="1364229425436" TEXT="the only way for a registrant to proceed is through the courts -- maybe a better solution is to require all domain-service contracts to provide the path for the registrant to compel this -- maybe better to let them file a TDRP directly, paralleling UDRP"/>
<node CREATED="1364229427056" ID="ID_560174547" MODIFIED="1364229449050" TEXT="Goal: providing a mechanism for the registrant to participate int he process directly"/>
<node CREATED="1364229453943" ID="ID_541123088" MODIFIED="1364229490462" TEXT="Option: a mechanism for the registrant to start the process, which then leads to mechanisms to compel the other parties to participate in the process"/>
<node CREATED="1364229491305" ID="ID_1027849395" MODIFIED="1364229505188" TEXT="Concern: authenticate the registrant ">
<node CREATED="1364229505390" ID="ID_1230558544" MODIFIED="1364229530356" TEXT="neither thin registries or 2nd level providers have a direct mechanism to do this directly"/>
<node CREATED="1364229530837" ID="ID_1666281289" MODIFIED="1364229545688" TEXT="would need to get back to the registrar of record"/>
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<node CREATED="1364229097711" ID="ID_646047138" MODIFIED="1364229143089" TEXT="3rd party dispute resolution providers are seeing direct requests from registrants">
<node CREATED="1364229252399" ID="ID_1304754479" MODIFIED="1364229292855" TEXT="provides another avenue for registrants to jump-start the process"/>
<node CREATED="1364229209041" ID="ID_1436757299" MODIFIED="1364229250766" TEXT="contracts between registrant/registrar to deal with hijacking?"/>
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<node CREATED="1364229144050" ID="ID_1223416543" MODIFIED="1364229161243" TEXT="Do we know why Registrars are refusing?">
<node CREATED="1364229161244" ID="ID_383884609" MODIFIED="1364229164964" TEXT="Cost?"/>
<node CREATED="1364229167573" ID="ID_61006842" MODIFIED="1364229179116" TEXT="Maybe registrant could offer to pay the fee?"/>
<node CREATED="1364229564183" ID="ID_1524279613" MODIFIED="1364229581373" TEXT="are Rr&apos;s in breach of the policy if they refuse?  who adjudicates?"/>
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<node CREATED="1364229622739" ID="ID_563716074" MODIFIED="1364229653409" TEXT="Implication: TDRP may need to be reengineered to accomodate the addition of a registrant &quot;start point&quot;">
<node CREATED="1364229653411" ID="ID_856634024" MODIFIED="1364229686403" TEXT="Perhaps a simpler approach would be a mechanism to compel the Rr to act"/>
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<node CREATED="1364226050295" ID="ID_644112374" MODIFIED="1364230096950" TEXT="d) Whether requirements or best practices should be put into place for registrars to make information on transfer dispute resolution options available to registrants">
<node CREATED="1364230101113" ID="ID_1813127325" MODIFIED="1364230116313" TEXT="Key issue -- disclosure">
<node CREATED="1364230123861" ID="ID_270517600" MODIFIED="1364230137565" TEXT="What are current practices"/>
<node CREATED="1364230145394" ID="ID_424975533" MODIFIED="1364230182598" TEXT="Challenge: tradeoff between ease of understanding vs tight definitions of all use-cases"/>
<node CREATED="1364230306489" ID="ID_1184389752" MODIFIED="1364230306489" TEXT="Is that the sort of information tht shouldd be in the Registrants Rights &amp; Responsibilities?"/>
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<node CREATED="1364226050298" ID="ID_1646347145" MODIFIED="1364230254991" TEXT="e) Whether existing penalties for policy violations are sufficient or if additional provisions/penalties for specific violations should be added into the policy"/>
<node CREATED="1364226050301" ID="ID_247226911" MODIFIED="1364226050301" TEXT="f) Whether the universal adoption and implementation of EPP AuthInfo codes has eliminated the need of FOAs."/>
<node CREATED="1364229771903" ID="ID_1831493043" MODIFIED="1364229961667" TEXT="New charter question?:  Given the other changes, especially those arising from IRTP-C, has the nature of the TDRP changed in a fundamental way?">
<node CREATED="1364229911111" ID="ID_496393976" MODIFIED="1364229942393" TEXT="Current language MAY be flexible enough, but it would be worth taking a look to ensure consistency of the policies"/>
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<node CREATED="1363019780482" ID="ID_1516539554" MODIFIED="1363021206187" POSITION="right" TEXT="Additional IRTP issues identified during the WG discussion">
<node CREATED="1363019853708" ID="ID_1131312888" MODIFIED="1363019864092" TEXT="This is the last instance of IRTP">
<node CREATED="1363019864320" ID="ID_640792902" MODIFIED="1363019873688" TEXT="Risk of overload"/>
<node CREATED="1363019875106" ID="ID_691430844" MODIFIED="1363019881238" TEXT="But this is the last time"/>
<node CREATED="1363019882418" ID="ID_541092041" MODIFIED="1363019888667" TEXT="Requires balance"/>
<node CREATED="1363019902983" ID="ID_812389258" MODIFIED="1363019911364" TEXT="Caution is the watchword"/>
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<node CREATED="1363019632544" ID="ID_187201025" MODIFIED="1363019718528" TEXT="Question:  whether registries should even be in the 1st-level resolution role?  Maybe go to something like UDRP?">
<node CREATED="1363019983253" ID="ID_1551312921" MODIFIED="1363020006337" TEXT="May tie to the &quot;open to registrants&quot; question -- smaller number of providers may be relevant"/>
<node CREATED="1363020015495" ID="ID_1585841231" MODIFIED="1363020044239" TEXT="&quot;Change of registrant&quot; also needs dispute resolution - that may be another topic for this "/>
<node CREATED="1363020119198" ID="ID_48320224" MODIFIED="1363020131472" TEXT="Many of the charter questions deal with TDRP"/>
<node CREATED="1363020131990" ID="ID_26286371" MODIFIED="1363020170701" TEXT="Dramatic increase in the number of registries -- many of whom (eg brands) may not have much dispute resolution"/>
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<node CREATED="1363021207279" ID="ID_1759085957" MODIFIED="1363021214875" POSITION="right" TEXT="Questions for next time">
<node CREATED="1363021214877" ID="ID_1845224395" MODIFIED="1363021225110" TEXT="actively recruit attendees in Beijing??"/>
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