Dear DG Members, Proposed Agenda New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3. Hope to speak to you all soon. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649
Thanks Steve, this mind map has some great content but is very hard to read. Is there any way to put this in outline format or something where each category can be viewed without zooming to 800% and breaking out the magnifying glass? :) Thanks! Best, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:01 AM To: gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Dear DG Members, Proposed Agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures - Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3. Hope to speak to you all soon. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649
Thanks for the note Kiran, and valid concern! I¹ve attached the content as rich text, so as to attempt to retain some of the formatting from the mind map. Hopefully this works better for you and others on the list. Best, Steve From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 11:49 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Thanks Steve, this mind map has some great content but is very hard to read. Is there any way to put this in outline format or something where each category can be viewed without zooming to 800% and breaking out the magnifying glass? J Thanks! Best, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com <http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:01 AM To: gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Dear DG Members, Proposed Agenda New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3. Hope to speak to you all soon. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649
Perfect, thank you so much! Best, Kiran From: Steve Chan [mailto:steve.chan@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 12:02 PM To: Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Thanks for the note Kiran, and valid concern! I've attached the content as rich text, so as to attempt to retain some of the formatting from the mind map. Hopefully this works better for you and others on the list. Best, Steve From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 11:49 AM To: Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>>, "gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Thanks Steve, this mind map has some great content but is very hard to read. Is there any way to put this in outline format or something where each category can be viewed without zooming to 800% and breaking out the magnifying glass? :) Thanks! Best, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:01 AM To: gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] - Proposed Agenda Dear DG Members, Proposed Agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures - Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3. Hope to speak to you all soon. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649
My apologies for missing this call, I had a scheduling mishap. I will look forward to the recording. Best, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Internet Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415-419-9138 (m) Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> wrote: Dear DG Members, Proposed Agenda – New gTLD Subsequent Procedures – Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3. Hope to speak to you all soon. Best, Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649 <New gTLD Subsequent Procedures_MM_4Dec2014.pdf> _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-dg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-dg
Hi Steve, As per my comment in the Adobeconnect chat room, please find attached my suggestions for additional issues to add to the mind map. Katim On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Dear DG Members,
*Proposed Agenda – New gTLD Subsequent Procedures – Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC*
1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting
Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3.
Hope to speak to you all soon.
Best,
*Steven Chan* Sr. Policy Manager
*ICANN*12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org
direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410
tel: +1.310.301.5800
fax: +1.310.823.8649
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Apologies for missing this call as well. Will listen to recording and catch up Thanks Jeff
On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:28 AM, Katim S. Touray <kstouray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
As per my comment in the Adobeconnect chat room, please find attached my suggestions for additional issues to add to the mind map.
Katim
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org>> wrote: Dear DG Members,
Proposed Agenda – New gTLD Subsequent Procedures – Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC Roll Call / Updates to SOIs Next steps Discussion of updated mind map Confirm next meeting Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3.
Hope to speak to you all soon.
Best,
Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager
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One of Katim's additions could fit in more than one place on the mind map: Should unsuccessful applications for support be protected in subsequent rounds to prevent their being dragged into auction wars by more resource-endowed applicants? If so, how should such protection be provided? This clearly fits under the section about applicants from developing countries, but it also concerns auctions, which is a group of issues in the section about contention mechanisms. Double issues like this have come up very often in discussions about the New TLD program with applicants who identify themselves as a particular type of applicant (not only from developing countries but also communities, IDNs, .BRANDs, and others). I've noticed that the overlap is caused by two different approaches towards issue grouping. Many people group issues by the procedure involved (application processing, contention resolution, etc). However, other participants in the community approach discussions about a subsequent round from the perspective of their particular identity. They look for the groups of issues that most directly affect them. Our mind map mixes the two approaches. It groups issues both by identity and by procedure, which is a little confusing. I'm concerned that confusion in the presentation will lead to confusion in the discussions. Trying to organize the issues under the GNSO Final Report principles also created inconsistencies. Issues about auctions are hard to find under the heading "Were strings effectively prevented from being confusingly similar...?" The Final Report principles don't have a clear structure, so anything organized around them will also lack structure. References to the GNSO Final Report principles (as a parenthetical at the end of the issue) should be sufficient. I recommend that we group the issues primarily by the procedures that make up the New TLD program. The timeline of procedures creates a clear and consistent outline. We should supplement the issue groups by calling out the sub-issues that particular applicant types have raised (for example, Katim's suggestion about applicants from developing countries in TLD auctions). I think we would all benefit from easily recognizing which discussions during the PDP will be a priority for specific applicant types. I noticed that ICANN staff have structured their internal reviews based on the timeline of procedures. Following a similar outline will help us efficiently blend their issues and the results of their reviews with our work. There are certainly issues that affect the New TLD program overall (rather than a specific procedure or sub-program). One group/section for these would not be too hard to find or to recognize which issues fit in it (for example, the Applicant Guidebook). David On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Katim S. Touray <kstouray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
As per my comment in the Adobeconnect chat room, please find attached my suggestions for additional issues to add to the mind map.
Katim
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org> wrote:
Dear DG Members,
*Proposed Agenda – New gTLD Subsequent Procedures – Monday 8 December at 15:00 UTC*
1. Roll Call / Updates to SOIs 2. Next steps 3. Discussion of updated mind map 4. Confirm next meeting
Attached, please find an updated mind map, which attempts to associate GNSO Final Report principles, recommendations, or implementation guideline with the issues that have been identified by this group; This attachment will support agenda item 3.
Hope to speak to you all soon.
Best,
*Steven Chan* Sr. Policy Manager
*ICANN*12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org
direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410
tel: +1.310.301.5800
fax: +1.310.823.8649
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