Thanks Avri. One of the things I will be doing this week and beyond is to try and take the subjective statements and make them into objective questions. I think we need to help refrain from making subjective determinations like “creating war machines” and other statements. Our job, I believe is to just ask the questions and let the eventual working group(s) deal with the substance. So the question on whether the number of applications by one group is an objective question and one that should be included, but perhaps the commentary on any individual applicant and/or motives should be left out. I know that you are just the messenger on these Avri, so this is not directed at you, but I have seen elsewhere in the document that subjective statements or statements of opinion are in there and I will try to mark those up with some of my own suggestions on objective wording as well. Thanks and keep them coming. Jeffrey J. Neuman Senior Vice President |Valideus USA | Com Laude USA 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600 Mclean, VA 22102, United States E: jeff.neuman@valideus.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com> or jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> T: +1.703.635.7514 M: +1.202.549.5079 @Jintlaw From: gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:11 PM To: gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Fwd: RE: [] Comments to the Executive Summary and gTLD Matrix Hi, Some of the questions/comments I have received passed on without attribution. I asked people to send them in directly if they wished. But just so the points aren't missed. IG F Was community contention resolution efficient? What improvements could be made to improve efficiency for all parties? Impacts on efficiency included: CPE could only begin once all contention set applications had cleared initial and/or extended evaluation (this was later changed). CO was extremely expensive and in Euros. CPE took up to six months. Nearly all community applications resulted in some form of Ombudsman/DIDP/RfR/CEP/IRP action. IG H What alternative processes – e.g. qualitative assessments – apart from or in tandem with a points or scoring system for assessing the existence of a community and the community relationship with applicant could yield more fulsome and accurate results? Could community experts, e.g. sociologists, anthropologists, economists, etc. be engaged in the development and implementation of this recommendation? Were the goals & intent of the community priority process clearly communicated to prospective applicants? Could clearer communication result in better quality applications (i.e. non-election by parties likely to fail and increased election by parties likely to prevail). IG P Are these the correct criterion for assessing the existence of a community? Are they based on research? Could they have been peer-reviewed by a panel of academic and community experts? What other approaches for verifying community could exist? and GENERAL THOUGHT ON GTLD NEW ROUND 1. Put a ceiling to the applications submitted by a single group (group and not company, because we have seen Afilias and M & M using subsidiaries or other signposts... This because the slate applications create war machines where the economy of scale makes irrelevant if not convenient to use all degrees of possibles claims just to filibustering competitors; 2. Create for community based applications‎ some simple rules as was made for geo names. The clarity and simplicity of the rules for geo names, discourage the vultures (not all of them) to apply for geo names when the appropriate legal entities applied. The unclarity of the rules for the other non-geo communities pushed many gTLD to defy community based similar strings. In most of the case they were right in doing so. For instance for sector where exist associations recognized at regional level (such as .bank, insurance, lawyers, etc.) this give a legitimacy as a community, even if such associations don't exist in all continents. For "political" and "civil liberties" associations the criteria of geographic coverage need to be lifted and adapted to existing situation. Asking. Gay to be supported in countries where still homosexuality is a crime is an evident nonsense. 3. Clear criteria to create positive discrimination for developing countries and poorer regions of the world ‎. Any application that is expression or get support from LDC and underdeveloped regions need to receive an incentive and a priority. If this will not happen, even the next round will be characterized by a predominance of the western applicants. Of course the support have to be expressed by real and existing bodies, not from mirror entities of multinationals or local offices of Western companies…. 4. Clear rules against filibustering Norms need to be issued to prevent the abuse of dominant position. Those that make opposition without solid ground and multiple opposition to any competitor and that loose the claims need to be penalized. For instance imposing a growing deposits of sums in case of multiple oppositions that will be lost in case of defeat. At the moment to go into RfR, CEP, IRP cost a fortune only to those that don’t have a permanent staff of lawyers under contract. For these latter, at a marginal cost, they could blackmail everybody oppose them. 5. Protections for the weaker subjects in case of dispute Because of the disparity of forces, it is absolutely unfair to have disputes opposing self-funded voluntary based organization (such as .gay) to DOT.companies. ICANN needs to set aside a fund or a group of experts to assists the weaker subjects when they have to oppose this kind of adversary. A sort of asymmetric treatment need be established: lesser fees, no deposit, and other measure to ensure equality of chances also to the poorer and farer from Californians beaches… 6. Clear rules to preserve democracy within ICANN Having accepted that 3 companies specialized in DOT.economy could apply for hundreds of TLDs risk to have a longlasting effects on the democratic process within ICANN. How to prevent that the Big 3 or 5 take over the whole gNSO constituency (achieving a practical possibility of veto of any decisions of ICANN they dislike or that could hamper their interests ? SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION ON CPE ‎A. The attribution of the points is very much questionable and too much left to the discretion of the evaluators; B. The selection of the body in charge of the CPE needs to be made taking in account the specificity of the scope. Ask the EIU to judge about community is like asking a carnivore to judge about the best vegetarian dish. If the scope is to evaluate ‎communities, then ICANN has to ask to association on NGOS or of Charity funds or to UN bodies in charge of humanitarian issues, because they can understand the representativity of the applicants, its relations with the territorial entities, and so on; C. the minimum score of 14 points out of sixteen is a total nonsense. There is no reason to have such a high score to be recognized as a community. The natural suspect is that the bar has been put so high to boycott the community applicants and to keep them out of the door. D. The decisions about the future TLD’s round concerning communities need to be established in partnership with the community TLDs. Their interest cannot be represented by RySG that is mainly populated by people that pursue a totally different scope: to make money out of it E. The impossibility to contact the evaluator has left grey areas where mistakes could happen. We had no possibility to verify who (among the supporting organizations) has been called and who was not. There was no way to communicate changes of names (the responsible people change within democratically elected bodies) of the person to contact within the supporting organizations. ICANN has to create a special task force that could act as go between the future EIU and the applicants F. 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Avri, GENERAL THOUGHT ON GTLD NEW ROUND 1. Put a ceiling to the applications submitted by a single group (group and not company, because we have seen Afilias and M & M using subsidiaries or other signposts... This because the slate applications create war machines where the economy of scale makes irrelevant if not convenient to use all degrees of possibles claims just to filibustering competitors; Agree 2. Create for community based applications‎ some simple rules as was made for geo names. The clarity and simplicity of the rules for geo names, discourage the vultures (not all of them) to apply for geo names when the appropriate legal entities applied. The unclarity of the rules for the other non-geo communities pushed many gTLD to defy community based similar strings. In most of the case they were right in doing so. For instance for sector where exist associations recognized at regional level (such as .bank, insurance, lawyers, etc.) this give a legitimacy as a community, even if such associations don't exist in all continents. For "political" and "civil liberties" associations the criteria of geographic coverage need to be lifted and adapted to existing situation. Asking. Gay to be supported in countries where still homosexuality is a crime is an evident nonsense. While I agree with you, I find it not enough for 2 reasons: · For poor community, we don’t have only to protect their right of having their own string, but we need to find the right way to support them in their application, exactly like we must do for applications from developing economies (think of the Tamil community who want to have their string to promote their language and their culture) · Community based applications were not assessed against clear and objective criteria. The mechanism by which the assessment was made should be reviewed. Sure, there should be guaranties that the process will not be gamed, but there must be guaranties that the assessment will be done in a fair and objective manner. 3. Clear criteria to create positive discrimination for developing countries and poorer regions of the world ‎. Any application that is expression or get support from LDC and underdeveloped regions need to receive an incentive and a priority. If this will not happen, even the next round will be characterized by a predominance of the western applicants. Of course the support have to be expressed by real and existing bodies, not from mirror entities of multinationals or local offices of Western companies…. There was proposals for dedicating the upcoming round for developing economies and poor communities. I think it was a fair proposal because the competition between those applicants and the northern one can’t be fair because they don’t have the same tools. It is a kind of positive discrimination If not a dedicated round, I would propose specific conditions and rules for developing economies and poor communities, for example: · Since the program development cost was recovered, I think that this kind of application should be free of charge (remember that we was told when we were fighting for lowering the application fee for the first round: “they have to wait for the upcoming round when we will recover the program developing cost”). · An accompanying support program should be developed to help these applicants at all levels (we need to work on it deeply) 4. Clear rules against filibustering Norms need to be issued to prevent the abuse of dominant position. Those that make opposition without solid ground and multiple opposition to any competitor and that loose the claims need to be penalized. For instance imposing a growing deposits of sums in case of multiple oppositions that will be lost in case of defeat. At the moment to go into RfR, CEP, IRP cost a fortune only to those that don’t have a permanent staff of lawyers under contract. For these latter, at a marginal cost, they could blackmail everybody oppose them. Agree 5. Protections for the weaker subjects in case of dispute Because of the disparity of forces, it is absolutely unfair to have disputes opposing self-funded voluntary based organization (such as .gay) to DOT.companies. ICANN needs to set aside a fund or a group of experts to assists the weaker subjects when they have to oppose this kind of adversary. A sort of asymmetric treatment need be established: lesser fees, no deposit, and other measure to ensure equality of chances also to the poorer and farer from Californians beaches… Agree 6. Clear rules to preserve democracy within ICANN Having accepted that 3 companies specialized in DOT.economy could apply for hundreds of TLDs risk to have a longlasting effects on the democratic process within ICANN. How to prevent that the Big 3 or 5 take over the whole gNSO constituency (achieving a practical possibility of veto of any decisions of ICANN they dislike or that could hamper their interests ? Absolutely SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION ON CPE ‎A. The attribution of the points is very much questionable and too much left to the discretion of the evaluators; B. The selection of the body in charge of the CPE needs to be made taking in account the specificity of the scope. Ask the EIU to judge about community is like asking a carnivore to judge about the best vegetarian dish. If the scope is to evaluate ‎communities, then ICANN has to ask to association on NGOS or of Charity funds or to UN bodies in charge of humanitarian issues, because they can understand the representativity of the applicants, its relations with the territorial entities, and so on; C. the minimum score of 14 points out of sixteen is a total nonsense. There is no reason to have such a high score to be recognized as a community. The natural suspect is that the bar has been put so high to boycott the community applicants and to keep them out of the door. D. The decisions about the future TLD’s round concerning communities need to be established in partnership with the community TLDs. Their interest cannot be represented by RySG that is mainly populated by people that pursue a totally different scope: to make money out of it E. The impossibility to contact the evaluator has left grey areas where mistakes could happen. We had no possibility to verify who (among the supporting organizations) has been called and who was not. There was no way to communicate changes of names (the responsible people change within democratically elected bodies) of the person to contact within the supporting organizations. ICANN has to create a special task force that could act as go between the future EIU and the applicants F. Has to be made clear if the evaluator has to verify EACH letter of support (as it seems from the guidelines) or if it can go only checking some samplers… I agree on all your points about the specific consideration on CPE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. http://www.avast.com