Dear All, Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email and the AC Chat below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 1 - Overall Process/Support/Outreach Issue held on Tuesday, 25 April 2017 at 03:00 UTC. Adobe Connect Recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p12my6zhdo8/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=270a392f7eacd741 b08abf3f2654f84519ad6e8cf34f5cf5e6c5e8497ddb0bc4> https://participate.icann.org/p12my6zhdo8/ The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt1> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt1 Agenda wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/_7DRAw> https://community.icann.org/x/_7DRAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 25 April 2017 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 1 - Overall Process/Support/Outreach Issue call on Tuesday, 25 April 2017 at 3:00 UTC. Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_- 5F7DRAw <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ -5F7DRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSF pCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7u ejQ&s=pExutxgVaNeM6YYGfUVwmsTIP6n2IHVdhdScfVJ8ClA&e> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=pE xutxgVaNeM6YYGfUVwmsTIP6n2IHVdhdScfVJ8ClA&e= avri doria:i am on adobe and don't hear Jeff Neuman:I am on Adobe and I can hear Terri Agnew:Checking audio, can I be heard at this time? Steve Chan:I can't hear you Terri Terri Agnew:If having audio issue on adobe , try logging in using a different browser Terri Agnew:or ping me with your telephone number and I can dial out to you Jeff Neuman:I can hear Terri now Steve Chan:I can hear as well and I'm on phone. (Jeff is on AC) Jeff Neuman:Avri has left the building Terri Agnew:@Avri, can you hear me at this time? avri doria:nope and tried to call in, but that did not work either avri doria:even rebooted Terri Agnew:I will send you a private chat Jim Prendergast:same here. I'd probably need some tie to review it, especially not at this hour. Jim Prendergast:on point 2 - is that implying that someone other than the front end registry aka applicant should bear the costs? I don't thnk you are suggesting technical service providers actually pay for it are you? Jeff Neuman:Can we post the link Jeff Neuman:And make suggestions Steve Chan:Available here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen t_d_1nWljRzRgDQgmSlSxyf7G6f2Dv7XDoD01D30KfWhoHNw_edit <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume nt_d_1nWljRzRgDQgmSlSxyf7G6f2Dv7XDoD01D30KfWhoHNw_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2 EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=f7HazjgaVR1hFdjtZicPZVrI U_yxsvmGQ1KJfetsRA4&e> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=f7 HazjgaVR1hFdjtZicPZVrIU_yxsvmGQ1KJfetsRA4&e= Jeff Neuman:If there are specific questions, please ask....but yes, this is a starting poin Jeff Neuman:point Donna Austin, Neustar:appreciate that Sara, and I hope my comments aren't being taken as being critical, just some general observations at this point. Jeff Neuman:That last bullet is a long way of saying it is a voluntary program :) Jim Prendergast:the costs point is something that going to need more discussion. I don't think this group should dictate that. if two parties want o negotiate it or an RSP wants to offer that, that's a differentiator in the marketplace. buts it's not the role of this group to dictate that. Jim Prendergast:that probably warrants to clarification to it Jeff Neuman:I think that is right Donna. Its not to govern the relationship between the RSP and RO, but rather who pays for the cost of technical evaluation if there is a preapproval process Jeff Neuman:Agree- All, please make suggestions in the google Doc. Lets get the wording to a point where it is clear and we can all agree Jim Prendergast:will do. I'm better at 11am as opposed to 11pm Jeff Neuman:Funny Jim...i am better at 11 pm :) Steve Chan 2:Sorry, missed those. Reloaded with the two points Jeff is discussing now. Jim Prendergast:I'll elaborate more in google docs on the last point but the fact that icann has had instances of a few operators failing SLAs and having to coach them into compliance makes it difficult to automatically grandfather them. in Justine Chew:Agree with Donna. Also subject to any changes in technical requirements for operating as RSP. Donna Austin, Neustar:@Jim, we really need ICANN to provide that information before we go down that track. Justine Chew:So we need to address scalability, Jeff? Jeff Neuman:that could be one item Jeff Neuman:again it is for discussion avri doria:I find the issue of granfathering somewhat problematic. i think there are possibly too many conditions that may vary. i do not see the harm of everyone starting afresh. Justine Chew:@Donna: Yes, agree with your response. Jeff Neuman:Thanks Donna - I dont think your comments and mine are inconsistent. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):had to drop audio to get into my next ICANN call Donna Austin, Neustar:@ Avri, as I see it and how i read this document, we are really only discussing a pre-approval process and if that doesn't change substantively from what was undertaken in 2012 i don't see why 2012 RSPs could not be grandfathered in. Jeff Neuman:Perhaps the grandfathering applies to what is the same with perhaps some lesser amount of evaluation on only those new requirements (if any) Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sigh 6,5 has of these today from 0300 2 oh of course it's a National public holiday so I shouldn't complain should I Donna Austin, Neustar:No Cheryl, you should be off playing two-up and leaving the phone at home avri doria:wee are trng to eliminate multipel testings, i do not see the requiremnt to eliminate all testing for some. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):poor audio for me Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):improved Terri Agnew:let me know if audio goes to poor again Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):off again a bit Jim Prendergast:did the community determine the pricing in the previous rounds or was that dictated by ICANN? Jeff Neuman:@Jim - Dictated by ICANN Terri Agnew:I reported Avri's AC audio issue earlier. I will add additional poor audio quality to the ticket Jeff Neuman:Based on some vague formulas and SWAGs on expected volumes Jim Prendergast:that's what I thought. Jeff Neuman:Applicant support programs need to get funding from somewhere Jeff Neuman:(if we have them) Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed they do!!! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and we should IMO avri doria:Jeff the cost of those should be calcualted into the total cost. Jeff Neuman:WE do need to revisit that report. If as people believe there will be 25000 applications, then under the current rates, it would take 25 years to complete delegating those TLDs Jeff Neuman:So we need to push those boudaries of that recommendation Jim Prendergast:25 years....wow Jeff Neuman:That report found no issues with the current rate of delegations and said it could handle much more Terri Agnew:next call: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 1 - Overall Process/Support/Outreach Issue will take place on Tuesday, 16 May 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Jeff Neuman:so, that is the key part we (WT 4) may need to discuss Donna Austin, Neustar:@Jeff, do you know who signs off on that report, ie, is it the Board? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye for now then lots more to divvying all this from today Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):discuss Edmon:bye Jeff Neuman:Not sure as it was just outsourced