Dear All, Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email. The AC recording and AC Chat are listed below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 2 - Legal/Regulatory Issues held on Thursday, 14 September 2017 at 03:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording : https://participate.icann.org/p18nw3eloxp/ The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2 Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9hkhB Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 14 September 2017 Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team - Track 2 Legal/Regulatory Issues call on Thursday, 14 September 2017 at 03:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_9 hkhB <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ 9hkhB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6T mF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCD hu0lujKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=m9SERfdwoFfC7OYAUL1PMT4uutjgecOFJpMWB8jgUt4&e=> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zm yci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lu jKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=m9SERfdwoFfC7OYAUL1PMT4uutjgecOFJpMWB8jgUt4&e= Jeff Neuman:Will we get to 15 participants? Michael Flemming:I'm only logged in on my phone so that must be an imposter me clo:sorry I am on my mobile phone we have lost landline phone lines it seems Michael Flemming:closed generics Michael Flemming:not registrant protection Justine Chew:Do we know if Jannik Skou represents any stakeholder group? Is his (potentially) the only comment from a non-commercial group? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin. com_in_jannikskou_ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_ja nnikskou_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqs LT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6 _OCDhu0lujKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=7P8M-7KHhx0V1gwYTqvHlka9lz6RjFyVq44wSBjev9M&e=> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zm yci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lu jKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=7P8M-7KHhx0V1gwYTqvHlka9lz6RjFyVq44wSBjev9M&e= Emily Barabas:Jannik Skou SOI: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis play_gnsosoi_Jannik-2BSkou-2BSOI <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di splay_gnsosoi_Jannik-2BSkou-2BSOI&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6s Jms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsj Wv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lujKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=lqd0D43VH3fFcKNyAb-scHJQ B1XremYoXE9QTBz-zUw&e=> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zm yci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lu jKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=lqd0D43VH3fFcKNyAb-scHJQB1XremYoXE9QTBz-zUw&e= Justine Chew:Right, thanks. Then his is not a "community" comment. Justine Chew:@Jeff, yes that's what I wanted to get at. Thanks. Justine Chew:@Avri, thanks for the clarification. Heather Forrest:Norway Jim Prendergast:I agree we need to ask the GAC to clarify. I don't think anyone wants to try and interpret what the GAC says Heather Forrest:International law requires that jurisdictions protect signs 9including generic terms) that have acquired distinctiveness. Justine Chew:Yes, TM protection also based on classes of goods/service. Michael Flemming:yes distinctiveness Trang Nguyen:Implementation of GAC Category 2 Advice (exclusive access) can be viewed at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_a pplicants_advisories_gac-2Dcat2-2Dadvice-2D19mar14-2Den <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_ applicants_advisories_gac-2Dcat2-2Dadvice-2D19mar14-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJ p6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqES Ge_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lujKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=q qu2ivanYpgfctUra76x5wU_C32cuItbRXSKNby4apE&e=> &d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zm yci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5NatGh4BgzA-POFAy6_OCDhu0lu jKGTXeD3PaGBRxN8&s=qqu2ivanYpgfctUra76x5wU_C32cuItbRXSKNby4apE&e= Heather Forrest:Yes - context is a significant part of consumer recognition Trang Nguyen:There were 12 applicants that stated that it was their intent to operate exclusive access registries. ICANN asked those applicants to provide a response for how the proposed exclusive registry access serves a public interest goal. Trang Nguyen:I can't recall how many of the 12 ultimately decided to stay exclusive access. Let me do some checking. Justine Chew:Fine balance between "changing goal-posts" and "moving forward with the times". Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):did everyone else just lose audio or just me? Michelle DeSmyter:Jeff, we are not able to hear you Justine Chew:Lost audio Jim Prendergast:hung up instead of unmuting Jim Prendergast:dialing back Jeff Neuman:Thanks Jim. Let us know when you are back in Michael Flemming 2:Our decisions can allow for paths that back track to 2012 applicants Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):no audio in Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sorry Aug winds playing havock.... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hard to hear Michael Flemming 2:Thanks Jeff, gotta drop Trang Nguyen:Of the 12 that initially indicated they will operate as exclusive registries, 7 withdrew, 1 obtained a Spec 13 (FOOD), the remaining 5 signed the RA, which includes Spec 11. Spec 11 has a provision that says: "Registry Operator of a "Generic String" TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person's or entity's "Affiliates" (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). "Generic String" means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others." Trang Nguyen:sorry about that copy/paste Trang Nguyen:Of the 12 that initially indicated they will operate as exclusive registries, 7 withdrew, 1 obtained a Spec 13 (FOOD), the remaining 5 signed the RA, which includes Spec 11. Spec 11 has a provision that says: "Registry Operator of a "Generic String" TLD may not impose eligibility criteria for registering names in the TLD that limit registrations exclusively to a single person or entity and/or that person's or entity's "Affiliates" (as defined in Section 2.9(c) of the Registry Agreement). "Generic String" means a string consisting of a word or term that denominates or describes a general class of goods, services, groups, organizations or things, as opposed to distinguishing a specific brand of goods, services, groups, organizations or things from those of others." Trang Nguyen:Sorry, that should say remaining "4" Trang Nguyen:The 4 are .GROCERY, .DVR, .DATA, .PHONE Justine Chew:@Trang, thanks, useful info. 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Justine Chew:Thanks! avri doria:bye