Dear All, Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email and the AC Chat below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations held on Thursday, 19 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC. The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4 Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/wLPDAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 19 January 2017 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations onThursday, 19 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_w... Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Thanks Terri Terri Agnew:@Jeff audio quality is good at this time Terri Agnew:30 January New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group 15:00 UTC Terri Agnew:All hands have been cleared Jeff Neuman:Not sure how to phrase this, but I would love to hear about experiences from those that have launched IDN TLDs Jeff Neuman:What challenges they have had Jeff Neuman:what can be done for improvement Alan Greenberg:I am not seeing anything in the centre pod. Alan Greenberg:oops - now back! Martin Sutton:need to amend the financial question to quote financial Martin Sutton:its done Martin Sutton:thx Jeff Neuman:For technical evaluation: Should the number of TLDs applied for, plus ones they currently run, be taken into consideration in the evaluation. If so, how Trang Nguyen:@Jeff, you are correct. Applications were evaluated on a standalone basis in the 2012 round. Jeff Neuman:Question for ICANN/Evaluators:Did the evaluators/panelists submit performance improvement reports or other comments on what improvements could be made for subsequent procedures? Jeff Neuman:Was there any post mordem process? Jeff Neuman:If so, can we see those? Trang Nguyen:We had debriefs with the evaluation panels and they provided comments and suggestions, which we took into account when drafting the PIRR. Jeff Neuman:PIRR? Trang Nguyen:Program Implementation Review Report Jeff Neuman:Is it possible to see the original comments? Trang Nguyen:They were provided to ICANN as confidential documents, not for external consumption. Jeff Neuman:Why confidential? Trang Nguyen:We could check with them to see if they would have any issues with releasing them. Jeff Neuman:I can understand redacted portions related to individual applications......but it would be great to see their comments. It may help us to revise questions that were asked of applicants Trang Nguyen:Their comments/suggestions were largely consistent with ICANN's observations as reflected in the PIRR, but we could take an action to ask them whether we can share their reports. avri doria:Trang, that would be good to check if you could. Thanks Phil Buckingham:which bullets points do you wish to discuss . Phil Buckingham:Q should there be a separate financial template for each "type" of business model . Jeff Neuman:@Trang. That makes total sense.....We should document that formally and put it into the guidebook Martin Sutton:That would be helpful to have more detail Trang - can that be shared? Martin Sutton:Should there also be some differentiation between self-funded registries where they are the only registrant, i.e. impact on registrants is not relevant? Phil Buckingham:@ Trang , does ICANN have the points scored for each question by application by type of business model ( ie closed / open / IDNs ) . Then possibly we can start to identify the problem questions Martin Sutton:@Trang - good point, but that could be built in to a transition process where checks have to be completed before they switch over Phil Buckingham:@ trang- when an applicant reaches a set number of DUMs ? I thought it was 50K that would trigger a change from closed model to an open one ? Jeff Neuman:@Trang - good questions Jeff Neuman:@Avri - correct. That is being implemented by some TLDs now Jeff Neuman:@Avri - Changes are right now through RSEP process and that is currently beyond the scope of this PDP Phil Buckingham:Exactly Avri - does a change of application status mean new financial evaluation / due diligence Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I am not aware of any of our WT s looking at that either Avri so yes we need to catch them Jeff Neuman:Other than accounting for changes in the contracting process, I am not sure we should be delving into how future changes are done. We can recommend a separate PDP for that, but if we go down that path now, we will never finish. Steve Chan:I think it has been discussed in the context of other topics (e.g., different TLD types), but there is not a dedicated topic related to the subject. Jeff Neuman:Plus, that has applicability to existing registries as well as for those for future ones Phil Buckingham:+1 Steve Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):re change of mode Phil Buckingham:Agree Jeff- cant backtrack . Martin Sutton:Agree with Jeff - recommendation for separate PDP to progress this, as it is a post-application change Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):mode=model yes Jeff agree Terri Agnew:next call: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations will take place on Thursday, 09 February 2017 at 20:00 UTC. Trang Nguyen:Sorry, i will try to provide answers to questions aked in the chat via the mail list. Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:thanks Ruben and the rest avri doria:thanks Trang Nguyen:Thanks, all!