Dear All, Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email. The Adobe Connect recording and AC Chat are below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations held on Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 20:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p6q3q59ksr6/ The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4 Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/ILHRAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 20 April 2017 Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations call on Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 20:00 UTC Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_I... avri doria:not quite completely here yet. Jennifer Chung:Thanks for the welcome Cheryl, glad to be on the call Rubens Kuhl:Sound is breaking up for me.... Rubens Kuhl:... is it a side effect of the AC changes ? Steve Chan:@Rubens, I'm on a phone and it's good for me. Steve Chan:Not sure if someone else might be able to comment on AC audio Emily Barabas:Draft CCT-RT comments are here for review: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... Rubens Kuhl:One reference video on this type of collision is this DEFCON presentation: Rubens Kuhl:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPbyDSvGasw Rubens Kuhl:Called "DEFCON 21 - DNS May Be Hazardous to Your Health - Robert Stucke" Julie Hedlund:Information from ICANN on Name Collisions: Here’s the ICANN guidance on it: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources... Rubens Kuhl:Emily/Julie: could we add the video above to the WT references ? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Julie does SSAC have yet to be published research on anything mentioned by Avri? Julie Hedlund:@ Cheryl: There is SAC090. I'll get the link. I don't think there is anything further. Steve Chan:SAC090: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):with us yes, but management must in my Biased view, be looked at and resolved Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thus the importance of this and similar conversations Julie Hedlund:Also, SAC062: SAC Advisory Concerning the Mitigation of Name Collision Risk (07 November 2013) at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_groups... Julie Hedlund:SAC090 is SSAC Advisory on the Stability of the Domain Namespace (22 December 2016) Alan Greenberg:Middle ground is almost certainly where we will end up. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):personal view is that I suspect so Alan avri doria:Alan, we often stick with status quo. avri doria:mitigation is a good middle postion in many things Alan Greenberg:Agreed. Just hazarding a guess. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes indeed Avri Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):or data yet unpublished Alan Greenberg:Where can we find reports of those 37 occurrences? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Time check 12 min in call ⌚ and Rubens and I have another call starting at top of the hour Rubens Kuhl:CLO, I have to make the same call. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes I noted that my friend :-) Alan Greenberg:I do understand what collisions mean. But examples of what the identified problems were is, in my opinion, important.\ Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):Thank you Cheryl and everyone. Emily Barabas:Thursday 4 May at 3:00 UTC avri doria:bye