Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
Dear Emily Thanks for the useful slides. One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)… Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities… Hope this helps Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
Hi Jorge This is a good idea. WT5 should work towards solutions that reduces conflicts. The more that can be done in advance to avoid complaints and litigation afterwards, the better. Looking forward to hear other members view on this. Kind regards Annebeth Annebeth B Lange UNINETT Norid AS 16. mai 2018 kl. 09:28 skrev "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>>: Dear Emily Thanks for the useful slides. One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)… Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities… Hope this helps Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Hi Jorge,Nice idea.Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst,National Internet Exchange of IndiaISOC FELLOW | inSIG FELLOWIIREF FELLOW | UASG AMBASSADORwww.nixi.in | www.indiaig.in | registry.inFrom: <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>Sent: Wed, 16 May 2018 12:58:47 GMT+0530To: <emily.barabas@icann.org>, <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org>Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018at 14:00 UTC Dear Emily Thanks for the useful slides. One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)… Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities… Hope this helps Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily BarabasGesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.orgBetreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Administration/Capturing and Managing Input Geographic Names Process Review AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing listGnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [NIXI is on Social-Media too. Kindly follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nixiindia & Twitter: @inregistry ] This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies and the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited and appropriate legal action will be taken. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Al Pls clarify what is that panel Who are their members What is its authority and mandate Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 16 May 2018, at 09:28, <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote:
Dear Emily
Thanks for the useful slides.
One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)…
Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities…
Hope this helps
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Work Track 5 Members,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC.
Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Administration/Capturing and Managing Input Geographic Names Process Review AOB
Slides for the call are attached for reference.
Kind regards, Emily
Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Dear Kavouss This is an idea at the conceptual level. The panel would be advisory and be composed by independent experts, which would help applicants in understanding the AGB rules on geonames. This and further details are open for discussion ☺ Best Jorge Von: Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 14:59 An: Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Cc: emily.barabas@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Al Pls clarify what is that panel Who are their members What is its authority and mandate Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 16 May 2018, at 09:28, <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>> wrote: Dear Emily Thanks for the useful slides. One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)… Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities… Hope this helps Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Before jumping ahead to the idea of a panel, we need to focus on the criteria that will be applied. It assumes far too much to think that limitless (or one even extensive) lists of cities and other strings not covered by the 2012 AGB, will be part of those criteria. We need clearer criteria on which geonames will be granted gate-keeping rights and under what circumstances. Also which ones might have “curative rights” such as Dispute resolution processes and under which circumstances. An over-reliance on preemptive rights vs. curative rights would be a serious error. Greg On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote:
Dear Kavouss
This is an idea at the conceptual level. The panel would be advisory and be composed by independent experts, which would help applicants in understanding the AGB rules on geonames.
This and further details are open for discussion J
Best
Jorge
*Von:* Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 14:59 *An:* Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> *Cc:* emily.barabas@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Al
Pls clarify what is that panel
Who are their members
What is its authority and mandate
Regards
Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 16 May 2018, at 09:28, <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> < Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote:
Dear Emily
Thanks for the useful slides.
One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)…
Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities…
Hope this helps
Jorge
*Von:* Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Emily Barabas *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 *An:* gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org *Betreff:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Work Track 5 Members,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC.
1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB
Slides for the call are attached for reference.
Kind regards,
Emily
*Emily Barabas *| Senior Policy Specialist
*ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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Thanks Greg. We can definitely discuss all these points in the call in a few hours. Regards, Javier Rúa-Jovet ALAC +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On May 16, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
Before jumping ahead to the idea of a panel, we need to focus on the criteria that will be applied. It assumes far too much to think that limitless (or one even extensive) lists of cities and other strings not covered by the 2012 AGB, will be part of those criteria.
We need clearer criteria on which geonames will be granted gate-keeping rights and under what circumstances. Also which ones might have “curative rights” such as Dispute resolution processes and under which circumstances. An over-reliance on preemptive rights vs. curative rights would be a serious error.
Greg
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote: Dear Kavouss
This is an idea at the conceptual level. The panel would be advisory and be composed by independent experts, which would help applicants in understanding the AGB rules on geonames.
This and further details are open for discussion J
Best
Jorge
Von: Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 14:59 An: Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> Cc: emily.barabas@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Al
Pls clarify what is that panel
Who are their members
What is its authority and mandate
Regards
Kavouss
Sent from my iPhone
On 16 May 2018, at 09:28, <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote:
Dear Emily
Thanks for the useful slides.
One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)…
Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities…
Hope this helps
Jorge
Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC
Dear Work Track 5 Members,
Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC.
Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates Administration/Capturing and Managing Input Geographic Names Process Review AOB
Slides for the call are attached for reference.
Kind regards,
Emily
Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
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I actually wonder why curative rights are not wholly sufficient? Paul Rosenzweig M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738 1739 From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 1:25 PM To: Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Before jumping ahead to the idea of a panel, we need to focus on the criteria that will be applied. It assumes far too much to think that limitless (or one even extensive) lists of cities and other strings not covered by the 2012 AGB, will be part of those criteria. We need clearer criteria on which geonames will be granted gate-keeping rights and under what circumstances. Also which ones might have “curative rights” such as Dispute resolution processes and under which circumstances. An over-reliance on preemptive rights vs. curative rights would be a serious error. Greg On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> > wrote: Dear Kavouss This is an idea at the conceptual level. The panel would be advisory and be composed by independent experts, which would help applicants in understanding the AGB rules on geonames. This and further details are open for discussion J Best Jorge Von: Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> ] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 14:59 An: Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> > Cc: emily.barabas@icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> ; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Al Pls clarify what is that panel Who are their members What is its authority and mandate Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 16 May 2018, at 09:28, <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> > <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> > wrote: Dear Emily Thanks for the useful slides. One question/suggestion which comes to my mind: there is a geographic names review as part of the initial evaluation, i.e. when the applicant already has made significant investments. What if, in addition to that review, the geographic names panel would also be available on an advisory basis during the application preparation phase? It could advise on hard/unclear cases and also on names with geographic significance not covered by the specific geonames categories/lists included in the AGB 2012, as well as help in identifying relevant public authorities (with help from ICANN Org and GAC Members if needed)… Probably this would avoid a lot of headaches and unexpected issues when the application is already further down the road, and would allow for early contact with the relevant public authorities… Hope this helps Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Mai 2018 08:23 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 16 May 2018 at 14:00 UTC Dear Work Track 5 Members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the call on Wednesday 16 May at 14:00 UTC. 1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates 2. Administration/Capturing and Managing Input 3. Geographic Names Process Review 4. AOB Slides for the call are attached for reference. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
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Annebeth Lange -
Arasteh -
Emily Barabas -
Greg Shatan -
Harish Chowdhary -
Javier Rua -
Jorge.Cancio＠bakom.admin.ch -
Paul Rosenzweig