Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB
Dear WT5 members, The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y-cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQ.... The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions. To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert > Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
Dear Emily, Would it be possible and helpful to add an additional column after AGB to identify the recommendations of the Cross-Community Working Group on Country and Territory Names on treatment of ISO-2 codes? Best wishes, Heather On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WT5 members,
The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y- cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo/edit?usp=sharing.
The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions.
To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert
Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list.
Kind regards,
Emily
*Emily Barabas *| Senior Policy Specialist
*ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 <+31%206%2084507976>
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Hi Heather, This is certainly possible. Please see additional text added to Tab 1, Column E. Kind regards, Emily From: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> Date: Thursday 1 February 2018 at 18:58 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB Dear Emily, Would it be possible and helpful to add an additional column after AGB to identify the recommendations of the Cross-Community Working Group on Country and Territory Names on treatment of ISO-2 codes? Best wishes, Heather On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote: Dear WT5 members, The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y-cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1FuPEq0y-2DcdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=LZ0bp39Z190vnFrLvtkGSkXHzambM0sHsYqEPetZOTg&s=7Rgeg2L1XDRE_w8kuvP6sITCu2lFB01V88xdUChyt1M&e=>. The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions. To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert > Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976<tel:+31%206%2084507976> _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Excellent, Emily - thank you for your speedy and helpful reply. Heather Forrest On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Heather,
This is certainly possible. Please see additional text added to Tab 1, Column E.
Kind regards,
Emily
*From: *Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> *Date: *Thursday 1 February 2018 at 18:58 *To: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> *Cc: *"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB
Dear Emily,
Would it be possible and helpful to add an additional column after AGB to identify the recommendations of the Cross-Community Working Group on Country and Territory Names on treatment of ISO-2 codes?
Best wishes,
Heather
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WT5 members,
The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y- cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreads...> .
The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions.
To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert
Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list.
Kind regards,
Emily
*Emily Barabas *| Senior Policy Specialist
*ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
Email: emily.barabas@icann.org | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 <+31%206%2084507976>
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Good thinking, Heather ☺ Kind regards, Annebeth From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 19:28 To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] Re: Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB Hi Heather, This is certainly possible. Please see additional text added to Tab 1, Column E. Kind regards, Emily From: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> Date: Thursday 1 February 2018 at 18:58 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB Dear Emily, Would it be possible and helpful to add an additional column after AGB to identify the recommendations of the Cross-Community Working Group on Country and Territory Names on treatment of ISO-2 codes? Best wishes, Heather On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org>> wrote: Dear WT5 members, The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y-cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1FuPEq0y-2DcdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQu91FDqo_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=LZ0bp39Z190vnFrLvtkGSkXHzambM0sHsYqEPetZOTg&s=7Rgeg2L1XDRE_w8kuvP6sITCu2lFB01V88xdUChyt1M&e=>. The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions. To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert > Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976<tel:+31%206%2084507976> _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
Dear all, I’m afraid I will only be able to attend the first part of today’s call, so I would like to share some points on the question of the definition and treatment of geographic names: · Definitions: the definitions included in the 2012 AGB in general worked well. However, as said before, problems in the application of the AGB 2012 related to geonames as Top Level Domains have arisen in relation to those names with a geographic meaning/significance that were not covered under the 2012 AGB rules (we all know some examples that still are lingering today, such as “.amazon”). I would therefore suggest, for the time being, that we include in this definition discussion, the notion that there were names with geographic meaning not covered by the 2012 AGB definitions and rules, which according to a factual analysis have given rise to problems, and that therefore a debate would be warranted, in order to include them under the definitions in a manner to be agreed upon, establishing a framework for mutually agreed outcomes amongst all interested parties in such applications. · Treatment: according to the available data (for instance the data circulated prior to the webinar organized in April last year) the 2012 AGB requirement of a non-objection letter by the relevant public authorities worked well, as it created a good mix of incentives for applicants and relevant authorities to arrive at mutually accepted solutions for the delegation of the strings. @staff/co-leads: please kindly include these points in the record and/or relevant documents. Thanks and best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2018 15:01 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB Dear WT5 members, The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y-cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQ.... The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions. To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert > Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
Dear Jorge, Thank you for email and your points are noted. Once we have discussed each of the existing terms and had an opportunity to hear others opinions, the intention is to move on to other geographic terms not included in the AGB. These initial discussions should provide a useful foundation to help guide the next steps in a constructive manner. Therefore, if we can focus on completing this first step, we hope to move swiftly on to the next stage. Kind regards, Martin Martin Sutton Executive Director Brand Registry Group martin@brandregistrygroup.org<mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org> On 7 Feb 2018, at 10:40, Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch> wrote: Dear all, I’m afraid I will only be able to attend the first part of today’s call, so I would like to share some points on the question of the definition and treatment of geographic names: • Definitions: the definitions included in the 2012 AGB in general worked well. However, as said before, problems in the application of the AGB 2012 related to geonames as Top Level Domains have arisen in relation to those names with a geographic meaning/significance that were notcovered under the 2012 AGB rules (we all know some examples that still are lingering today, such as “.amazon”). I would therefore suggest, for the time being, that we include in this definition discussion, the notion that there were names with geographic meaning not covered by the 2012 AGB definitions and rules, which according to a factual analysis have given rise to problems, and that therefore a debate would be warranted, in order to include them under the definitions in a manner to be agreed upon, establishing a framework for mutually agreed outcomes amongst all interested parties in such applications. • Treatment: according to the available data (for instance the data circulated prior to the webinar organized in April last year) the 2012 AGB requirement of a non-objection letter by the relevant public authorities worked well, as it created a good mix of incentives for applicants and relevant authorities to arrive at mutually accepted solutions for the delegation of the strings. @staff/co-leads: please kindly include these points in the record and/or relevant documents. Thanks and best regards Jorge Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Emily Barabas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2018 15:01 An: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Definition and Treatment of Geographic Names: 2007 Policy and 2012 AGB Dear WT5 members, The WT5 Co-Leaders have prepared a spreadsheet comparing the definition and treatment of geographic names in 2007 Policy and the 2012 Applicant Guidebook to support discussion in the upcoming Work Track 5 meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 7 February at 14:00 UTC. The spreadsheet is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuPEq0y-cdSUQ1nvhWKhVnG8PLaC2RYXsCpQ.... The spreadsheet is intended to focus the discussions during the call on the elements that were in the AGB and Policy, to discuss their merits/issues and determine if they should carry on in scope. The following step will be to consider other geographic terms that were not in the AGB for the group to discuss. If there is time on the upcoming call, the Co-Leaders will start the conversation about terms not included in the AGB. Members are welcome to begin adding comments to the second tab to prepare for the follow-on discussions. To add a comment on a particular cell, click on the cell and select Insert > Comment from the top menu. Comments are also welcome on the mailing list. Kind regards, Emily Emily Barabas | Senior Policy Specialist ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Email: emily.barabas@icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
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Annebeth Lange -
Emily Barabas -
Heather Forrest -
Jorge.Cancio＠bakom.admin.ch -
Martin Sutton