Paul,

 

We are getting to the end of the process where we need to make sure that we have appropriate document version control.  I appreciate the fact that our instructions may not have been as clear as they should have been and for that I will take the blame.


At this point in time, we are asking that all changes to the drafts be made by Leadership and really mostly staff.  Comments should be sent around on e-mail and for all other topics other than (a) Closed Generics, (b) Resolution of Last Resort / Auctions, and (c) Predictability, they need to use the “Cant Live With” form if there is a request for change of language.

 

For the 3 topics stated above, you can use the “comment” feature in the current Google Doc to indicate comments or proposed wording changes for now.  After the meeting on Monday, hopefully these 3 topics will be “Cant Live With” topics sent around in Package 8 and the form will then be required.

 

Some of the changes that you put in which we discussed were done for clarity and where that is the case, we will likely add those back in.  With respect to the substantive changes, those will need buy off from the Working Group.

 

For all future proposed changes, we do ask that they be circulated to the group well in advance of meetings so that other members of the working group can come prepared.

 

I hope this all makes sense.

 

Sincerely,

 

Jeff

 

 

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman

Founder & CEO

JJN Solutions, LLC

p: +1.202.549.5079

E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com

http://jjnsolutions.com

 

 

From: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:22 AM
To: Pruis, Elaine <epruis@verisign.com>; steve.chan@icann.org; jim@GALWAYSG.COM; julie.bisland@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org; Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>
Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC

 

Sending again, this time copying the list. Looking forward to Staff instructions on this. I have never in all my years of WG work seen all suggestions rejected by Staff before so I am really befuddled about how this process now works. Thanks. 

 

 

Thanks Steve.  Unless I hear otherwise, I will take your email as overriding the Co-chair’s instructions to make changes into the Google document.  I’m not exactly sure why we are taking a different approach on this issue than for every other issue this WG has encountered so far where the document was Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black.  But, perhaps that will become clear to me as time goes on.

 

As for your suggestion that “WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines” – how should we do that?  Trying to do that exclusively over email will be quite a feat to track when there is no unified Google document anymore.  I’m concerned that I will miss something.  Will Staff gather the substantive portions of those comments and circulate them prior to our next call?  If so, what is the cut-off deadline for making those comments?  How will the various changes that I proposed and we walked through as a group be captured and brought forward for refinement?

 

Sorry to ask so many questions, but when the rules change this significantly this late in the game over one issue only, I am just trying to figure out how to pivot so that I can do my best to follow the new rules.

 

Best,

Paul

 

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On Jul 23, 2020, at 6:48 PM, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> wrote:



Thanks Steve.  Unless I hear otherwise, I will take your email as overriding the Co-chair’s instructions to make changes into the Google document.  I’m not exactly sure why we are taking a different approach on this issue than for every other issue this WG has encountered so far where the document was Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black.  But, perhaps that will become clear to me as time goes on.

 

As for your suggestion that “WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines” – how should we do that?  Trying to do that exclusively over email will be quite a feat to track when there is no unified Google document anymore.  I’m concerned that I will miss something.  Will Staff gather the substantive portions of those comments and circulate them prior to our next call?  If so, what is the cut-off deadline for making those comments?  How will the various changes that I proposed and we walked through as a group be captured and brought forward for refinement?

 

Sorry to ask so many questions, but when the rules change this significantly this late in the game over one issue only, I am just trying to figure out how to pivot so that I can do my best to follow the new rules.

 

Best,

Paul

 

 

 

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Pruis, Elaine via Gnso-newgtld-wg
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:09 PM
To: steve.chan@icann.org; jim@GALWAYSG.COM; julie.bisland@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org
Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC

 

Thanks Steve,

I agree, staff or chairs should “hold the pen” and incorporate agreed upon language and changes. Otherwise our document will turn into Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black.

 

 

Elaine Pruis

Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy

epruis@verisign.com

703.948.4672

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From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 1:16 PM
To: Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, Julie Bisland <julie.bisland@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>
Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC

 

Hi Jim, all,

 

Staff has created a separate version that retains Paul’s redlines (here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-4Ihe76XexR_4WcodSnxBlEiJAS3tMw6_i0wY9ME8E/edit?usp=sharing) and in turn, rejected the suggestions that Paul made in the main document (here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X8F8zHkgMzQg2WqGHpuoEP78rhpDkFOjD2qKrZZzjHw/edit?usp=sharing) for ease of review.

 

From the staff perspective, we think it may be more productive if WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines.  

 

Best,

Steve

 

 

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM
To: Julie Bisland <julie.bisland@icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>
Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC

 

I believe Anne also asked for this on the call but could we get a copy of Proposal 5 before Paul made edits to the document.  Or a clean copy with Paul’s edits below it?  Would be easier for some of us to compare the changes and suggest our own without making changes to the master version.

 

If I make any suggestions or changes, I’ll create my own version and circulate via email for all to see.

 

thanks

 

Jim Prendergast

The Galway Strategy Group

+1 202-285-3699

 

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Julie Bisland
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 12:55 AM
To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org
Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org
Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC

 

Dear all,

 

All recordings for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC can be found on the agenda wiki page (attendance included) and the GNSO Master calendar .

 

These include:

  • Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list)
  • Audio recording
  • Zoom chat archive
  • Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript)
  • Transcript

 

As a reminder only members can join the call, observers can listen to the recordings and read the transcript afterwards. Please email gnso-secs@icann.org if you would like to change your status from observer to member. 

  

For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives and the main wiki page.

 

Thank you.

Kind regards

 

Julie