See notes below.
Anne
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Donna
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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Items on Predictability we did not get to on last WG Call
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All,
Notes from the meeting that occurred at 03:00 UTC on Tuesday will be out shortly. With this e-mail, however, I want to raise some issues that we did not necessarily have time to discuss on the call, but which I think we may need to address.
Remember, that discussions on this e-mail list are going to be critical to getting our work done.
Quick note on caution: As described on the call, we are not relitigating any of these issues. The purpose here is to evaluate the questions raised and determime whether we should respond by updating the recommendations.
Also, please make sure that you refer to the Predictability Section of the Draft Final Report when responding.
On the Topic of Predictability –
For some of these I have proposed a path forward in line with other recommendations. Please feel free to disagree. Ultimately it is not my view that matters, but rather the will of the group.
i. To stick with our original position, pointing out that if the GAC issues Consensus Advice to the Board, the Board can bring it to the attention of the SPIRT. Alternatively, if
the GAC can convince ICANN staff about the importance of an issue, then ICANN staff can bring it to the attention of the SPIRT.
OR[Aikman-Scalese, Anne] I believe the IPC would support the original position.
DA: I have a question—is the Board required to refer an issue to the SPIRT as a consequence of receiving GAC advice on an issue that impacts the new gTLD program? I note that we say it can bring it to the attention
of the SPIRT, but what’s the expectation? That the Board would wait for a response from the SPIRT and that would form the basis of the Board’s response to the GAC? I’m trying to understand the compatibility of the two processes and whether it’s a reasonable
expectation that the Board would in fact forward GAC advice to the SPIRT for consideration.
ii. Allow the GAC to refer items to the SPIRT. This could lessen delay if the GAC issues consensus advice. Rather than having to wait for the ICANN Board to address the issue
only to refer it to the SPIRT could waste precious time. If we go down this path, then the following questions could arise:
1.
Must the referral only be accepted if there is a GAC Consensus?
2.
If we allow the GAC to refer items to the SPIRT, do we allow each of the other ACs (particularly the ALAC and SSAC)? If not, why are we making treating the GAC any differently.
DA: As I said on the call I think we do need to reconsider this issue because it may be preferable to have the GAC bring an issue to the SPIRT for consideration rather than issue advice to the Board. We should
also keep in mind, that regardless of who brings the issue to the SPIRT, the SPIRT has a limited role is required to work through the framework in order to assess whether the change to the program is operational or policy and recommend appropriate action.
I appreciate we had concerns about lobbying, but perhaps it may be prudent to allow SO/ACs to bring issues to SPIRT as well.
DA: I have no objection to a Liaison, but the role would need to be defined.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
I believe the IPC would support a GAC Liaison. GAC participation could affect timelines for getting final recommendations to the GNSO Council so that would have to be addressed.
DA: It would be helpful to have a process flow to help us respond to this question. I think some work had been done on this previously and perhaps it can be resurrected. We’d also need to account for the possibility
that the SPIRT could be dealing with more than one issue at any point in time.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
I don’t think you can put a time limit on SPIRT recommendations. You don’t know the issues in advance and whether an expert opinion will be needed. If SPIRT is taking too long, GNSO Counsel can intervene as long as we know
GNSO Council procedures re Input, Guidance, and EPDP take precedence. (Consensus on the call was to move this to Recommendation status and this was always the intent anyway. GNSO Council is the “guardrail” on the SPIRT.)
DA: I agree that the SPIRT be able to rely on precedent and should be encouraged to do so.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
GNSO Council should determine, when it accepts a SPIRT recommendation, whether or not the acceptance of that recommendation establishes a precedent. The Motion to approve at the Council level should include the question
as to whether it sets precedent or not.
DA: I agree that the ICANN Board should be able to act in emergency situations and I actually think this should be at the Board’s discretion and not something that we narrowly tailor as this would be difficult
to do. However, for transparency reasons the Board would need to inform the SPIRT leadership within [X] hours of doing so. If the action results in a halt to the program or is likely to encounter considerable delays for applicants the Board would need to provide
a communication to affected applicants immediately.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
If such an emergency power to halt processing of applications is necessary, would the scope and duration modeled on the Temp Spec in the RA? In addition, if an emergency power is “scoped” in this manner, does it prohibit
the Board from acting outside that emergency power and does the Board really want that constraint or is this just building in a new option the Board can invoke?
DA: From memory the change process from 2012 was opaque at best, so I agree with the proposed recommendation that the level of detail be sufficient for the community to understand the scope and nature of the
change.
DA: In the event that a change in the program after applications have been submitted makes it difficult for the applicant to remain true to their business plan or makes their application largely ineligible without
change, then a full refund should be available.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
Personal Opinion: I think this depends on what stage the application is at. For example, if applicant proceeded with full knowledge that there was no Closed Generic policy that was final and proceeded to file Closed Generic
applications, I think the Board would have to determine the level of refund. If this WG doesn’t come up with Closed Generic policy, I think we face the risk that the Board will send that result back to GNSO Council and say “try again” and “we won’t allow
ICANN org to process those applications until you get the policy work done”. And of course based on the policy we have now, no new applications for that string for an open TLD would be permitted either.
DA: The substance of the actual example is not the issue here. It’s about ICANN’s ability to act quickly and develop solutions vs the time that it may take the SPIRT to make a decision and implement, which is
a valid concern. I think we need to discuss further.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
Just pointing out that SPIRT cannot make a decision, it can only make a recommendation. The issue of speed was debated at length in the Policy & Implementation Working Group as well as in this Sub Pro Working Group. The
public comment on the “Initial Report” was overwhelmingly in favor of a “Standing IRT”. You can say that SPIRT should provide GNSO Council with a recommendation on an issue within 30 days of it being raised by the proper party (Board, Council, ICANN staff)
and if they do not, then Council must take it up directly. But that may be the only way to force the SPIRT to work quickly.
DA: Given we discussed this at length, perhaps the IRT can develop more specificity on this based on other examples available. However, we should specify this in the Final Report.[Aikman-Scalese,
Anne] IRT needs to develop a more detailed SOI questionnaire for the purposes of the SPIRT. The tough issue will be when recusal is “required” versus voluntary – can’t remember how this works.
DA: Agree we should change.
DA: There should be an upper limit on membership that recognizes that the SPIRT is intended to be a nimble and efficient team.
[Aikman-Scalese, Anne]
Throughout the deliberations, it was determined that the constitution of the SPIRT should be the same as the IRT since public comment was in favor of a Standing IRT. Unfortunately, recommendations to make this group small
may result in resort to a “representative” model which tilts the votes (as we have seen in connection with the recent EPDP on privacy.) I’m not certain that limiting the number of members actually makes the team more efficient. In Sub Pro, very few members
are actually active in discussions. Things move slowly due to differing points of view, not due to the number of members. Maybe the timeline for SPIRT to make a recommendation to GNSO Council should depend on the category assigned to the issue?
30 days for X, 60 days for Y, 90 days for Z?
“SPIRT be nimble, SPIRT be quick, SPIRT jump over the policy schtick!”
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