Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report
HI Emily, Would you confirm the minority reports will be annexes in the report itself, not just attachments? Thanks Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_453059993] From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear all, Please see attached. This updated version with the Minority Reports included as full text will be sent to Council shortly. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 19:42 To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Just to confirm that we are producing another version that has all of the minority reports actually attached and will submit that to the Council. [cid:image001.png@01D6EF6A.675D06D0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:11 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Jim, This is exactly what the co-chairs mentioned during the calls that was going to happen. So, there should be no surprise. And by the time (or times) this was mentioned I heard no objections. Rubens On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM<mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM>> wrote: Cheryl and Jeff I’m forwarding the email that delivered the Final Report to the GNSO Council. I didn’t think much of the timing then but it was sent before the deadline for Minority Statements elapsed. Many of the statements were submitted prior to transmittal but not all. I began to think about this more and when I looked at the section of the report that contained the Minority Statements I was surprised to see this: <image001.png> When presented this way, minority statements are significantly diminished as the reader has to navigate to an external web page to read them. The RPMs WG included minority statements in the Final Report. And because the EPDP Phase 2 was pressed to get the report to the Council, they included some in the Final report, but also gave an extended date for others to submit theirs. Once those came in, there was an amended Final report with all contained in the report. By way of this email I am requesting all the minority statements that were submitted be fully included in an updated version of the Final Report and that be sent to Council as the version of record. Apologies in advance to staff for the additional work but minority statements are an important part of the work of the group and should be as easily accessible as other parts of the report. As Council meets tomorrow and the Board ends their workshop this weekend with a session on Sub Pro, I welcome a timely response and resolution. Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Emily Barabas Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:18 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Dear Councilors, Please find attached the Final Report of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group, which will be discussed under agenda item 6 of the 21 January GNSO Council meeting. Below, you will find a message from the Working Group Co-Chairs regarding the Final Report. Kind regards, Emily Dear Council Members, The Working Group for the PDP on Subsequent Procedures for New gTLDs (SubPro) proudly submits its Final Report to the GNSO Council for consideration. We are happy to report that all but one of the topics received a designation of either Full Consensus or Consensus. Annex C of the Final Report provides further detail about the Consensus designations for specific outputs under each topic. Within each of the outputs within the topics that received less than Full Consensus, to the extent there were more than one Output for that Topic, the table in Annex C sets forth those outputs within the topic that achieved Consensus or Full Consensus. For example, in Topic 2, the overall designation for the Topic is “Consensus.” That said, Outputs 2.1, 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 had “Full Consensus”, but Output 2.3 had Consensus. The PDP Working Group Leadership would like to draw the Council’s attention to a few of the items which may require future thought and/or discussion. 1. Mitigating DNS Abuse. As you are aware, by Letter dated 27 April 2020, the SubPro PDP Working Group referred the issue of DNS Abuse in all gTLDs back to the GNSO Council. As stated in that letter, and repeated in Recommendation 9.15, the Working Group acknowledges ongoing important work in the community on the topic of DNS abuse and believes that a holistic solution is needed to account for DNS abuse in all gTLDs as opposed to dealing with these recommendations with respect to only the introduction of subsequent new gTLDs. In addition, recommending new requirements that would only apply to the new gTLDs added to the root in subsequent rounds could result in singling out those new gTLDs for disparate treatment in contravention of the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, this PDP Working Group is not making any recommendations with respect to mitigating domain name abuse other than stating that any such future effort must apply to both existing and new gTLDs (and potentially ccTLDs). 1. Closed Generics. The Working Group had “Full Consensus” on the fact that we were unable to come to an agreement on what, if anything, should be done with respect to Closed Generics in subsequent rounds (see Topic 23). This topic was debated for may hours, was the subject of several requests for comments by the community, and had multiple proposals that were discussed, debated and ultimately dismissed. The fact is that there are compelling arguments both for and against allowing them in subsequent rounds, and no right or wrong answer. The Working Group believes that if this issue were to be considered in future policy work, it should also involve experts in the areas of competition law, public policy, and economics. In addition, it should be performed by those in the community that are not associated with any past, present, or expectations of future work in connection with new gTLD applications or objections to new gTLD applications. Absent such independence, any future work is unlikely to result in an outcome any different than the one achieved in this Working Group. 1. Public Interest Commitments / Registry Voluntary Commitments. Although the substantive proposals in Topic 9 garnered Consensus regarding PICs and RVCs, the ICANN Board raised some questions in its comments to the Draft Final Report about whether requiring PICs/RVCs in subsequent rounds (other than those that were grandfathered) are in line with the 2016 ICANN Bylaws. This issue, we believe, is not one that can be answered by a PDP Working Group, but rather by the ICANN Board itself with input from the entire community. Therefore, those recommendations should be read in a manner that assumes that in fact PICs and RVCs can be implemented in the contracts and enforced by ICANN. There is some discussion of this in Topic 9, and proposed ways to implement those PICs/RVCs in a manner that we believe would be compliant, but this may need further discussion within the community as a whole (Not in a PDP). If for any reason the PIC/RVC Recommendations cannot be implemented with the current Bylaws, the community may either want to engage in a discussion to revise the Bylaws, or alternatively, revise the recommendations to ensure that they are enforceable. 1. Mechanisms of Last Resort / Private Resolution of Contention Sets. Topic 35 was the only topic to receive the overall designation of Strong Support but Significant Opposition. · Although many of the elements in those recommendations did get Consensus support, there was not consensus on: (a) whether the auctions of last resort should be done as a sealed bid auction where bids are submitted towards the beginning of the process, or (b) whether private auctions should be allowed to resolve contention sets. · There was consensus on allowing other forms of private resolution, such as combining applications, creating new ventures, etc. · But there was no consensus on whether private auctions, where each losing applicant splits the proceeds from the winning bid, should continue to be allowed in subsequent rounds. Our plan is to hold a webinar for the Council and community to attend to discuss these matters further. The webinar will be held prior to the February Council meeting. On behalf of the entire Working Group, we would like to thank the 200+ members of the group for the thousands of hours of meetings, Adobe Connect and Zoom Calls, and In-Person meetings over these past four to five years. We also want to thank not just all of the Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups that actively participated, but also the ALAC and GAC for all of their input, dedication and support. Finally, we could not have done this without the support and expertise or Steve, Julie and Emily from ICANN Org. 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Hi Elaine, The full text of the minority statements is now published in Annex I of the document. Did staff misunderstand the original request? Thanks in advance for clarifying. Kind regards, Emily From: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 20:30 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report HI Emily, Would you confirm the minority reports will be annexes in the report itself, not just attachments? Thanks Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_453059993] From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear all, Please see attached. This updated version with the Minority Reports included as full text will be sent to Council shortly. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 19:42 To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Just to confirm that we are producing another version that has all of the minority reports actually attached and will submit that to the Council. [cid:image001.png@01D6EF6A.675D06D0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:11 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Jim, This is exactly what the co-chairs mentioned during the calls that was going to happen. So, there should be no surprise. And by the time (or times) this was mentioned I heard no objections. Rubens On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM<mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM>> wrote: Cheryl and Jeff I’m forwarding the email that delivered the Final Report to the GNSO Council. I didn’t think much of the timing then but it was sent before the deadline for Minority Statements elapsed. Many of the statements were submitted prior to transmittal but not all. I began to think about this more and when I looked at the section of the report that contained the Minority Statements I was surprised to see this: <image001.png> When presented this way, minority statements are significantly diminished as the reader has to navigate to an external web page to read them. The RPMs WG included minority statements in the Final Report. And because the EPDP Phase 2 was pressed to get the report to the Council, they included some in the Final report, but also gave an extended date for others to submit theirs. Once those came in, there was an amended Final report with all contained in the report. By way of this email I am requesting all the minority statements that were submitted be fully included in an updated version of the Final Report and that be sent to Council as the version of record. Apologies in advance to staff for the additional work but minority statements are an important part of the work of the group and should be as easily accessible as other parts of the report. As Council meets tomorrow and the Board ends their workshop this weekend with a session on Sub Pro, I welcome a timely response and resolution. Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Emily Barabas Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:18 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Dear Councilors, Please find attached the Final Report of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group, which will be discussed under agenda item 6 of the 21 January GNSO Council meeting. Below, you will find a message from the Working Group Co-Chairs regarding the Final Report. Kind regards, Emily Dear Council Members, The Working Group for the PDP on Subsequent Procedures for New gTLDs (SubPro) proudly submits its Final Report to the GNSO Council for consideration. We are happy to report that all but one of the topics received a designation of either Full Consensus or Consensus. Annex C of the Final Report provides further detail about the Consensus designations for specific outputs under each topic. Within each of the outputs within the topics that received less than Full Consensus, to the extent there were more than one Output for that Topic, the table in Annex C sets forth those outputs within the topic that achieved Consensus or Full Consensus. For example, in Topic 2, the overall designation for the Topic is “Consensus.” That said, Outputs 2.1, 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 had “Full Consensus”, but Output 2.3 had Consensus. The PDP Working Group Leadership would like to draw the Council’s attention to a few of the items which may require future thought and/or discussion. 1. Mitigating DNS Abuse. As you are aware, by Letter dated 27 April 2020, the SubPro PDP Working Group referred the issue of DNS Abuse in all gTLDs back to the GNSO Council. As stated in that letter, and repeated in Recommendation 9.15, the Working Group acknowledges ongoing important work in the community on the topic of DNS abuse and believes that a holistic solution is needed to account for DNS abuse in all gTLDs as opposed to dealing with these recommendations with respect to only the introduction of subsequent new gTLDs. In addition, recommending new requirements that would only apply to the new gTLDs added to the root in subsequent rounds could result in singling out those new gTLDs for disparate treatment in contravention of the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, this PDP Working Group is not making any recommendations with respect to mitigating domain name abuse other than stating that any such future effort must apply to both existing and new gTLDs (and potentially ccTLDs). 1. Closed Generics. The Working Group had “Full Consensus” on the fact that we were unable to come to an agreement on what, if anything, should be done with respect to Closed Generics in subsequent rounds (see Topic 23). This topic was debated for may hours, was the subject of several requests for comments by the community, and had multiple proposals that were discussed, debated and ultimately dismissed. The fact is that there are compelling arguments both for and against allowing them in subsequent rounds, and no right or wrong answer. The Working Group believes that if this issue were to be considered in future policy work, it should also involve experts in the areas of competition law, public policy, and economics. In addition, it should be performed by those in the community that are not associated with any past, present, or expectations of future work in connection with new gTLD applications or objections to new gTLD applications. Absent such independence, any future work is unlikely to result in an outcome any different than the one achieved in this Working Group. 1. Public Interest Commitments / Registry Voluntary Commitments. Although the substantive proposals in Topic 9 garnered Consensus regarding PICs and RVCs, the ICANN Board raised some questions in its comments to the Draft Final Report about whether requiring PICs/RVCs in subsequent rounds (other than those that were grandfathered) are in line with the 2016 ICANN Bylaws. This issue, we believe, is not one that can be answered by a PDP Working Group, but rather by the ICANN Board itself with input from the entire community. Therefore, those recommendations should be read in a manner that assumes that in fact PICs and RVCs can be implemented in the contracts and enforced by ICANN. There is some discussion of this in Topic 9, and proposed ways to implement those PICs/RVCs in a manner that we believe would be compliant, but this may need further discussion within the community as a whole (Not in a PDP). If for any reason the PIC/RVC Recommendations cannot be implemented with the current Bylaws, the community may either want to engage in a discussion to revise the Bylaws, or alternatively, revise the recommendations to ensure that they are enforceable. 1. Mechanisms of Last Resort / Private Resolution of Contention Sets. Topic 35 was the only topic to receive the overall designation of Strong Support but Significant Opposition. · Although many of the elements in those recommendations did get Consensus support, there was not consensus on: (a) whether the auctions of last resort should be done as a sealed bid auction where bids are submitted towards the beginning of the process, or (b) whether private auctions should be allowed to resolve contention sets. · There was consensus on allowing other forms of private resolution, such as combining applications, creating new ventures, etc. · But there was no consensus on whether private auctions, where each losing applicant splits the proceeds from the winning bid, should continue to be allowed in subsequent rounds. Our plan is to hold a webinar for the Council and community to attend to discuss these matters further. The webinar will be held prior to the February Council meeting. On behalf of the entire Working Group, we would like to thank the 200+ members of the group for the thousands of hours of meetings, Adobe Connect and Zoom Calls, and In-Person meetings over these past four to five years. We also want to thank not just all of the Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups that actively participated, but also the ALAC and GAC for all of their input, dedication and support. Finally, we could not have done this without the support and expertise or Steve, Julie and Emily from ICANN Org. Sincerely, Jeff Neuman and Cheryl Langdon-Orr SubPro PDP Chairs Emily Barabas Policy Manager, GNSO Policy Development Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 www.icann.org [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/secure-web.cisco.com/1evDvIODodem7drO8FQrE...> <Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 Jan 2021.pdf>_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1E6Zz0CfdtRSpLR7hU00...> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/15621QCXBnFUgp5CdaVS...>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1pf36iB4i0e2mcm5Qvpf...>). 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Thanks Emily, I think we’re good. I was confused by Jeff’s statement “all of the minority reports actually attached”. Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_1417503874] From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:34 PM To: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Elaine, The full text of the minority statements is now published in Annex I of the document. Did staff misunderstand the original request? Thanks in advance for clarifying. Kind regards, Emily From: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 20:30 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report HI Emily, Would you confirm the minority reports will be annexes in the report itself, not just attachments? Thanks Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_453059993] From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear all, Please see attached. This updated version with the Minority Reports included as full text will be sent to Council shortly. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 19:42 To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Just to confirm that we are producing another version that has all of the minority reports actually attached and will submit that to the Council. [cid:image001.png@01D6EF6A.675D06D0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:11 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Jim, This is exactly what the co-chairs mentioned during the calls that was going to happen. So, there should be no surprise. And by the time (or times) this was mentioned I heard no objections. Rubens On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM<mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM>> wrote: Cheryl and Jeff I’m forwarding the email that delivered the Final Report to the GNSO Council. I didn’t think much of the timing then but it was sent before the deadline for Minority Statements elapsed. Many of the statements were submitted prior to transmittal but not all. I began to think about this more and when I looked at the section of the report that contained the Minority Statements I was surprised to see this: <image001.png> When presented this way, minority statements are significantly diminished as the reader has to navigate to an external web page to read them. The RPMs WG included minority statements in the Final Report. And because the EPDP Phase 2 was pressed to get the report to the Council, they included some in the Final report, but also gave an extended date for others to submit theirs. Once those came in, there was an amended Final report with all contained in the report. By way of this email I am requesting all the minority statements that were submitted be fully included in an updated version of the Final Report and that be sent to Council as the version of record. Apologies in advance to staff for the additional work but minority statements are an important part of the work of the group and should be as easily accessible as other parts of the report. As Council meets tomorrow and the Board ends their workshop this weekend with a session on Sub Pro, I welcome a timely response and resolution. Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Emily Barabas Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:18 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Dear Councilors, Please find attached the Final Report of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group, which will be discussed under agenda item 6 of the 21 January GNSO Council meeting. Below, you will find a message from the Working Group Co-Chairs regarding the Final Report. Kind regards, Emily Dear Council Members, The Working Group for the PDP on Subsequent Procedures for New gTLDs (SubPro) proudly submits its Final Report to the GNSO Council for consideration. We are happy to report that all but one of the topics received a designation of either Full Consensus or Consensus. Annex C of the Final Report provides further detail about the Consensus designations for specific outputs under each topic. Within each of the outputs within the topics that received less than Full Consensus, to the extent there were more than one Output for that Topic, the table in Annex C sets forth those outputs within the topic that achieved Consensus or Full Consensus. For example, in Topic 2, the overall designation for the Topic is “Consensus.” That said, Outputs 2.1, 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 had “Full Consensus”, but Output 2.3 had Consensus. The PDP Working Group Leadership would like to draw the Council’s attention to a few of the items which may require future thought and/or discussion. 1. Mitigating DNS Abuse. As you are aware, by Letter dated 27 April 2020, the SubPro PDP Working Group referred the issue of DNS Abuse in all gTLDs back to the GNSO Council. As stated in that letter, and repeated in Recommendation 9.15, the Working Group acknowledges ongoing important work in the community on the topic of DNS abuse and believes that a holistic solution is needed to account for DNS abuse in all gTLDs as opposed to dealing with these recommendations with respect to only the introduction of subsequent new gTLDs. In addition, recommending new requirements that would only apply to the new gTLDs added to the root in subsequent rounds could result in singling out those new gTLDs for disparate treatment in contravention of the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, this PDP Working Group is not making any recommendations with respect to mitigating domain name abuse other than stating that any such future effort must apply to both existing and new gTLDs (and potentially ccTLDs). 1. Closed Generics. The Working Group had “Full Consensus” on the fact that we were unable to come to an agreement on what, if anything, should be done with respect to Closed Generics in subsequent rounds (see Topic 23). This topic was debated for may hours, was the subject of several requests for comments by the community, and had multiple proposals that were discussed, debated and ultimately dismissed. The fact is that there are compelling arguments both for and against allowing them in subsequent rounds, and no right or wrong answer. The Working Group believes that if this issue were to be considered in future policy work, it should also involve experts in the areas of competition law, public policy, and economics. In addition, it should be performed by those in the community that are not associated with any past, present, or expectations of future work in connection with new gTLD applications or objections to new gTLD applications. Absent such independence, any future work is unlikely to result in an outcome any different than the one achieved in this Working Group. 1. Public Interest Commitments / Registry Voluntary Commitments. Although the substantive proposals in Topic 9 garnered Consensus regarding PICs and RVCs, the ICANN Board raised some questions in its comments to the Draft Final Report about whether requiring PICs/RVCs in subsequent rounds (other than those that were grandfathered) are in line with the 2016 ICANN Bylaws. This issue, we believe, is not one that can be answered by a PDP Working Group, but rather by the ICANN Board itself with input from the entire community. Therefore, those recommendations should be read in a manner that assumes that in fact PICs and RVCs can be implemented in the contracts and enforced by ICANN. There is some discussion of this in Topic 9, and proposed ways to implement those PICs/RVCs in a manner that we believe would be compliant, but this may need further discussion within the community as a whole (Not in a PDP). If for any reason the PIC/RVC Recommendations cannot be implemented with the current Bylaws, the community may either want to engage in a discussion to revise the Bylaws, or alternatively, revise the recommendations to ensure that they are enforceable. 1. Mechanisms of Last Resort / Private Resolution of Contention Sets. Topic 35 was the only topic to receive the overall designation of Strong Support but Significant Opposition. · Although many of the elements in those recommendations did get Consensus support, there was not consensus on: (a) whether the auctions of last resort should be done as a sealed bid auction where bids are submitted towards the beginning of the process, or (b) whether private auctions should be allowed to resolve contention sets. · There was consensus on allowing other forms of private resolution, such as combining applications, creating new ventures, etc. · But there was no consensus on whether private auctions, where each losing applicant splits the proceeds from the winning bid, should continue to be allowed in subsequent rounds. Our plan is to hold a webinar for the Council and community to attend to discuss these matters further. The webinar will be held prior to the February Council meeting. On behalf of the entire Working Group, we would like to thank the 200+ members of the group for the thousands of hours of meetings, Adobe Connect and Zoom Calls, and In-Person meetings over these past four to five years. We also want to thank not just all of the Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups that actively participated, but also the ALAC and GAC for all of their input, dedication and support. Finally, we could not have done this without the support and expertise or Steve, Julie and Emily from ICANN Org. Sincerely, Jeff Neuman and Cheryl Langdon-Orr SubPro PDP Chairs Emily Barabas Policy Manager, GNSO Policy Development Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 www.icann.org [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/secure-web.cisco.com/1evDvIODodem7drO8FQrE...> <Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 Jan 2021.pdf>_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1E6Zz0CfdtRSpLR7hU00...> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/15621QCXBnFUgp5CdaVS...>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1pf36iB4i0e2mcm5Qvpf...>). 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Thanks for confirming, Elaine. That is good to hear. Kind regards, Emily From: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 21:02 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Thanks Emily, I think we’re good. I was confused by Jeff’s statement “all of the minority reports actually attached”. Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_1417503874] From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:34 PM To: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Elaine, The full text of the minority statements is now published in Annex I of the document. Did staff misunderstand the original request? Thanks in advance for clarifying. Kind regards, Emily From: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 20:30 To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org>, "jeff@jjnsolutions.com" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, "rubensk@nic.br" <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report HI Emily, Would you confirm the minority reports will be annexes in the report itself, not just attachments? Thanks Elaine Pruis Senior Director Naming Operations and Policy epruis@verisign.com<mailto:epruis@verisign.com> 703.948.4672 [signature_453059993] From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Emily Barabas <emily.barabas@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:26 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear all, Please see attached. This updated version with the Minority Reports included as full text will be sent to Council shortly. Kind regards, Emily From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 19:42 To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Just to confirm that we are producing another version that has all of the minority reports actually attached and will submit that to the Council. [cid:image001.png@01D6EF6A.675D06D0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:11 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Treatment of Minority Statements in the Final Report Jim, This is exactly what the co-chairs mentioned during the calls that was going to happen. So, there should be no surprise. And by the time (or times) this was mentioned I heard no objections. Rubens On 20 Jan 2021, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM<mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM>> wrote: Cheryl and Jeff I’m forwarding the email that delivered the Final Report to the GNSO Council. I didn’t think much of the timing then but it was sent before the deadline for Minority Statements elapsed. Many of the statements were submitted prior to transmittal but not all. I began to think about this more and when I looked at the section of the report that contained the Minority Statements I was surprised to see this: <image001.png> When presented this way, minority statements are significantly diminished as the reader has to navigate to an external web page to read them. The RPMs WG included minority statements in the Final Report. And because the EPDP Phase 2 was pressed to get the report to the Council, they included some in the Final report, but also gave an extended date for others to submit theirs. Once those came in, there was an amended Final report with all contained in the report. By way of this email I am requesting all the minority statements that were submitted be fully included in an updated version of the Final Report and that be sent to Council as the version of record. Apologies in advance to staff for the additional work but minority statements are an important part of the work of the group and should be as easily accessible as other parts of the report. As Council meets tomorrow and the Board ends their workshop this weekend with a session on Sub Pro, I welcome a timely response and resolution. Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Emily Barabas Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:18 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Dear Councilors, Please find attached the Final Report of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group, which will be discussed under agenda item 6 of the 21 January GNSO Council meeting. Below, you will find a message from the Working Group Co-Chairs regarding the Final Report. Kind regards, Emily Dear Council Members, The Working Group for the PDP on Subsequent Procedures for New gTLDs (SubPro) proudly submits its Final Report to the GNSO Council for consideration. We are happy to report that all but one of the topics received a designation of either Full Consensus or Consensus. Annex C of the Final Report provides further detail about the Consensus designations for specific outputs under each topic. Within each of the outputs within the topics that received less than Full Consensus, to the extent there were more than one Output for that Topic, the table in Annex C sets forth those outputs within the topic that achieved Consensus or Full Consensus. For example, in Topic 2, the overall designation for the Topic is “Consensus.” That said, Outputs 2.1, 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 had “Full Consensus”, but Output 2.3 had Consensus. The PDP Working Group Leadership would like to draw the Council’s attention to a few of the items which may require future thought and/or discussion. 1. Mitigating DNS Abuse. As you are aware, by Letter dated 27 April 2020, the SubPro PDP Working Group referred the issue of DNS Abuse in all gTLDs back to the GNSO Council. As stated in that letter, and repeated in Recommendation 9.15, the Working Group acknowledges ongoing important work in the community on the topic of DNS abuse and believes that a holistic solution is needed to account for DNS abuse in all gTLDs as opposed to dealing with these recommendations with respect to only the introduction of subsequent new gTLDs. In addition, recommending new requirements that would only apply to the new gTLDs added to the root in subsequent rounds could result in singling out those new gTLDs for disparate treatment in contravention of the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, this PDP Working Group is not making any recommendations with respect to mitigating domain name abuse other than stating that any such future effort must apply to both existing and new gTLDs (and potentially ccTLDs). 1. Closed Generics. The Working Group had “Full Consensus” on the fact that we were unable to come to an agreement on what, if anything, should be done with respect to Closed Generics in subsequent rounds (see Topic 23). This topic was debated for may hours, was the subject of several requests for comments by the community, and had multiple proposals that were discussed, debated and ultimately dismissed. The fact is that there are compelling arguments both for and against allowing them in subsequent rounds, and no right or wrong answer. The Working Group believes that if this issue were to be considered in future policy work, it should also involve experts in the areas of competition law, public policy, and economics. In addition, it should be performed by those in the community that are not associated with any past, present, or expectations of future work in connection with new gTLD applications or objections to new gTLD applications. Absent such independence, any future work is unlikely to result in an outcome any different than the one achieved in this Working Group. 1. Public Interest Commitments / Registry Voluntary Commitments. Although the substantive proposals in Topic 9 garnered Consensus regarding PICs and RVCs, the ICANN Board raised some questions in its comments to the Draft Final Report about whether requiring PICs/RVCs in subsequent rounds (other than those that were grandfathered) are in line with the 2016 ICANN Bylaws. This issue, we believe, is not one that can be answered by a PDP Working Group, but rather by the ICANN Board itself with input from the entire community. Therefore, those recommendations should be read in a manner that assumes that in fact PICs and RVCs can be implemented in the contracts and enforced by ICANN. There is some discussion of this in Topic 9, and proposed ways to implement those PICs/RVCs in a manner that we believe would be compliant, but this may need further discussion within the community as a whole (Not in a PDP). If for any reason the PIC/RVC Recommendations cannot be implemented with the current Bylaws, the community may either want to engage in a discussion to revise the Bylaws, or alternatively, revise the recommendations to ensure that they are enforceable. 1. Mechanisms of Last Resort / Private Resolution of Contention Sets. Topic 35 was the only topic to receive the overall designation of Strong Support but Significant Opposition. · Although many of the elements in those recommendations did get Consensus support, there was not consensus on: (a) whether the auctions of last resort should be done as a sealed bid auction where bids are submitted towards the beginning of the process, or (b) whether private auctions should be allowed to resolve contention sets. · There was consensus on allowing other forms of private resolution, such as combining applications, creating new ventures, etc. · But there was no consensus on whether private auctions, where each losing applicant splits the proceeds from the winning bid, should continue to be allowed in subsequent rounds. Our plan is to hold a webinar for the Council and community to attend to discuss these matters further. The webinar will be held prior to the February Council meeting. On behalf of the entire Working Group, we would like to thank the 200+ members of the group for the thousands of hours of meetings, Adobe Connect and Zoom Calls, and In-Person meetings over these past four to five years. We also want to thank not just all of the Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups that actively participated, but also the ALAC and GAC for all of their input, dedication and support. Finally, we could not have done this without the support and expertise or Steve, Julie and Emily from ICANN Org. Sincerely, Jeff Neuman and Cheryl Langdon-Orr SubPro PDP Chairs Emily Barabas Policy Manager, GNSO Policy Development Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976 www.icann.org [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/secure-web.cisco.com/1evDvIODodem7drO8FQrE...> <Final Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 Jan 2021.pdf>_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1E6Zz0CfdtRSpLR7hU00...> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/15621QCXBnFUgp5CdaVS...>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [secure-web.cisco.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/secure-web.cisco.com/1pf36iB4i0e2mcm5Qvpf...>). 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