Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization)
Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote:
Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution.
Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example.
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From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization)
Hi Jeff, Thanks assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who donât request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing.
It might help if we were to come up with a âbatch sizeâ and ârandomizationâ recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne
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Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula.
So, If I understand your modification, it would be:
* If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. * If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below.
Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500.
In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN
In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN ..etc
Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots.
I hope this works as a reasonable compromise.
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From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>AAikman@lrrc.com> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; <mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>alexander@schubert.berlin; <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization)
Hi Jeff it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT.
I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâT MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this.
No silos here just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne
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All,
Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in.
To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority.
So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules:
* ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and * ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY.
Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos.
Thanks in advance for trying again.
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From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization)
Hi,
I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application:
In my mind it doesnât make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then wonât launch their TLDs.
Any application that has a âsunrise periodâ provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise.
Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you donât yet know how or when you start up: donât ask for prioritization.
Thanks,
Alexander
From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>rubensk@nic.br> Cc: <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization)
Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language)
"Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches".
P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too.
Sincerely Yours,
Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID
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On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>rubensk@nic.br> wrote:
What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance.
While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite.
Rubens
On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> wrote:
All,
In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution.
Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet.
Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed.
Proposal Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications).
Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500.
In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN
In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 1500), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN ..etc
Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots.
I hope this works as a reasonable compromise.
Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President
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Do we have GAC input or public comment on idns? (Once again, I am trying to avoid conflicting advice going to the Board. It will DELAY the next round.) From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:07 AM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. 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If the working group supports this proposal, then we can seek input. It seems like there is some comfort within the working group for a proposal like this. So, I will officially write up the proposal and we can see if there is additional feedback. Stay tuned….. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:24 PM To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>; Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Do we have GAC input or public comment on idns? (Once again, I am trying to avoid conflicting advice going to the Board. It will DELAY the next round.) From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:07 AM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 1500), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus 1751 Pinnacle Drive Suite 600, McLean VA 22102, USA M: +1.202.549.5079 D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> www.comlaude.com<http://www.comlaude.com/> <image003.jpg> The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. 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With respect to 120, that is a few more applications for IDNs than we had last time. It represents 24% of the first batch of 500. We can make it an even 25% and change that 120 to 125. The reality is that there is never going to be a concrete justification for any number that we use for that first batch. We are trying to come to a compromise that makes the group comfortable that some IDN applications will get prioritized, and the rest of the group comfortable that we are not setting a rule that all IDN applications are prioritized (especially if we have thousands of IDN applications). As stated below, the original rule was only determined AFTER we knew the amount of IDN applications there were. Although the non-IDN applicants were comfortable with only a few weeks of delay for their applications in prioritizing all of the IDN applications that wanted priority, it cannot be said that non-IDN applicants will be comfortable with prioritizing ALL IDN applications if there are thousands of IDN applications (which could mean months or years of delay for them. And yes, all of the applications are randomized within their applicable batch. So the 120 or 125 IDN applications in the first batch will be randomized from the list of those IDN applications that elect priority. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:07 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 1500), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus 1751 Pinnacle Drive Suite 600, McLean VA 22102, USA M: +1.202.549.5079 D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> www.comlaude.com<http://www.comlaude.com/> <image003.jpg> The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. 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Jeff – I am fine with your latest proposal and it seems much simpler – good rationale… Thank you! Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:55 AM To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ With respect to 120, that is a few more applications for IDNs than we had last time. It represents 24% of the first batch of 500. We can make it an even 25% and change that 120 to 125. The reality is that there is never going to be a concrete justification for any number that we use for that first batch. We are trying to come to a compromise that makes the group comfortable that some IDN applications will get prioritized, and the rest of the group comfortable that we are not setting a rule that all IDN applications are prioritized (especially if we have thousands of IDN applications). As stated below, the original rule was only determined AFTER we knew the amount of IDN applications there were. Although the non-IDN applicants were comfortable with only a few weeks of delay for their applications in prioritizing all of the IDN applications that wanted priority, it cannot be said that non-IDN applicants will be comfortable with prioritizing ALL IDN applications if there are thousands of IDN applications (which could mean months or years of delay for them. And yes, all of the applications are randomized within their applicable batch. So the 120 or 125 IDN applications in the first batch will be randomized from the list of those IDN applications that elect priority. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:07 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. 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Jeff, Is this intended to be a requirement for all future rounds (until further notice) or intended to be just for the next round only? May be useful to clarify in the drafting. Kind regards, Martin On 15 Apr 2020, at 18:51, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> wrote: Jeff – I am fine with your latest proposal and it seems much simpler – good rationale… Thank you! Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:55 AM To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ With respect to 120, that is a few more applications for IDNs than we had last time. It represents 24% of the first batch of 500. We can make it an even 25% and change that 120 to 125. The reality is that there is never going to be a concrete justification for any number that we use for that first batch. We are trying to come to a compromise that makes the group comfortable that some IDN applications will get prioritized, and the rest of the group comfortable that we are not setting a rule that all IDN applications are prioritized (especially if we have thousands of IDN applications). As stated below, the original rule was only determined AFTER we knew the amount of IDN applications there were. Although the non-IDN applicants were comfortable with only a few weeks of delay for their applications in prioritizing all of the IDN applications that wanted priority, it cannot be said that non-IDN applicants will be comfortable with prioritizing ALL IDN applications if there are thousands of IDN applications (which could mean months or years of delay for them. And yes, all of the applications are randomized within their applicable batch. So the 120 or 125 IDN applications in the first batch will be randomized from the list of those IDN applications that elect priority. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:07 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. 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Martin, That’s a good question. I think it was intended to be a standing proposal for all future rounds, but if the group wants to do it only for the next one, that is an option as well. So, short answer is lets see if it works for the next round with the group and then ask the follow up question if it should be used moving forward after that as well. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Martin Sutton <martin@brandregistrygroup.org> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:45 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com> Cc: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Jeff, Is this intended to be a requirement for all future rounds (until further notice) or intended to be just for the next round only? May be useful to clarify in the drafting. Kind regards, Martin On 15 Apr 2020, at 18:51, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> wrote: Jeff – I am fine with your latest proposal and it seems much simpler – good rationale… Thank you! Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:55 AM To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ With respect to 120, that is a few more applications for IDNs than we had last time. It represents 24% of the first batch of 500. We can make it an even 25% and change that 120 to 125. The reality is that there is never going to be a concrete justification for any number that we use for that first batch. We are trying to come to a compromise that makes the group comfortable that some IDN applications will get prioritized, and the rest of the group comfortable that we are not setting a rule that all IDN applications are prioritized (especially if we have thousands of IDN applications). As stated below, the original rule was only determined AFTER we knew the amount of IDN applications there were. Although the non-IDN applicants were comfortable with only a few weeks of delay for their applications in prioritizing all of the IDN applications that wanted priority, it cannot be said that non-IDN applicants will be comfortable with prioritizing ALL IDN applications if there are thousands of IDN applications (which could mean months or years of delay for them. And yes, all of the applications are randomized within their applicable batch. So the 120 or 125 IDN applications in the first batch will be randomized from the list of those IDN applications that elect priority. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:07 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Jeff, I support your original proposal subject to notes below). The 120 rule seems to be just too small a detail and I am not sure it can be justified. I agree that priority should be explicitly requested (with the warned implication that if delegated early, they must be prepared to launch). I presume that all decisions on who is in a round or which IDNs are selected is a random selection. Alan At 2020-04-13 10:33 PM, Jeff Neuman wrote: Thanks Anne. The Applicant Guidebook did talk about using batches of 500 if there are more than 500 applications. I will dig that up ad then create an affirmation for that. So, it looks like we may have a possible workable solution. Would love to hear more feedback on the proposal. Tomorrow, I will re-write the proposal based on the feedback and create an example. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:51 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff, Thanks – assuming the 2012 round had 120 idn applicants, I would say: 1. If there are 120 idn applicants (or fewer) who check the box that they want priority, process those first. Those who don’t request priority get thrown into the remaining random batches and treated the same as all other applications. . 2. If more than 120 idn applicants want priority, I would go with your recommended system, but I would say that we should be processing no fewer than 50 idn applications per batch if that many have applied for priority processing. It might help if we were to come up with a “batch size†and “randomization†recommendation in collaboration with ICANN GDD. Then we would have more of a basis for recommending something Anne From: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:07 PM To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>>; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] Yes, I am making an assumption because we are creating a process that needs to not only apply to the next round, but needs to be repeatable. Without knowing a specific volume in advance, I am making a proposal based on a formula. So, If I understand your modification, it would be: 1. If there are <120 IDN applications, those applicants that want priority will be processed prior to non-IDN applications. 2. If there are >120 IDN applications, 120 of the IDN applications will be processed before any non-IDN applications. The remainder of the IDN applications shall be processed in the following manner: * In the first batch of 500, which includes the 120 initially reviewed IDN applications, the remaining 380 applications shall be randomized including all IDN and non-IDN applications. * The other batches shall work according to the example below. Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-120 must be IDNs; 121-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. In the next batch of 500 (Applications #501-1000), #501 - #550 must be IDN (if there are any left), and #551-1000 can be either IDN or non-IDN In the next batch of 500 (Applications #1001 – 15000), #1001 - #1050 must be IDN (if any are left), and #1051 -1500 can be either IDN or non-IDN…..etc Thus in a round with more than 1500 application, there would be a guarantee of evaluating at least 150 IDN applications PLUS any IDN applications showing up in the randomized drawings for the remaining 1,350 spots. I hope this works as a reasonable compromise. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:53 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> >; alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi Jeff – it appears the logic relates to DELAY in prrocessing idn applications. The assumption appears to be that there are TONS of IDN applications. NOT SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT. I was just suggesting a friendly amendment, IF THERE ARENâ€T MORE IDN APPLICATIONS THAN LAST TIME, why not let them move forward? If there are a bunch more, as assumed by your hypo, then we could RATION the processing of idn applications – not sure that 10% is rright and would welcome others views on this. No silos here – just a questioon re the underlying assumption of extreme DELAY. Anne From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:40 PM To: alexander@schubert.berlin<mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) [EXTERNAL] All, Sorry, I took it as a given that an IDN that did not want priority could opt out of prioritization. So that will be baked in. To respond to Anne, the public comment was mixed on whether there should be prioritization. Many commenters opposed ANY priority. Yes, some proposed them having priority. So, if we can think outside the box, I ask you to critique the proposal with the following rules: 1. ASSUME ONLY PRIORITY FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WANT IT, and 2. ASSUME YOU CANNOT PICK ALL IDNS HAVE PRIORITY nor CAN YOU PICK NO IDNs HAVE PRIORITY. Sorry, for the ALL CAPS, but I want us to try to see what we can live with and not stick to our silos. Thanks in advance for trying again. Jeff Neuman Senior Vice President Com Laude | Valideus D: +1.703.635.7514 E: jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg < gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 3:24 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Hi, I think we have to bake the priority-request-issue already into the application: In my mind it doesn’t make any sense if we proactively prioritize applicants that then won’t launch their TLDs. Any application that has a “sunrise period†provision in their application and is seeking prioritization should be forced to execute such sunrise within XX month after TLD testing. If you have a sunrise period and want prioritization: then execute your sunrise. Hence we should require applicants to indicate already in their application whether they request a potentially available prioritization. If you don’t yet know how or when you start up: don’t ask for prioritization. Thanks, Alexander From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Maxim Alzoba Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:46 PM To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Prioritization of IDNs proposal (Proportional Prioritization) Why don't we add (in some ICANN style legal language) "Chosen IDN applicants have the right not to use the results of such prioritization, and in this case the respective applications will fall into non-prioritized batches". P.s: I think saying "or they go into the end of the queue" is another extreme and we need to avoid that too. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 13 Apr 2020, at 19:07, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br>> wrote: What if the IDN applicant prefers not being a first mover ? That was the case of brands in 2012, for instance. While I'm happy providing priority if the IDN applicant wants it, although evaluation priority address just one of the many issues faced by IDNs, I don't think we should prioritise applications that want exactly the opposite. Rubens On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:55, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com<mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> > wrote: All, In an effort to offer a compromise between those that favor the prioritization of all IDN applications and those that do not favor the prioritization, I wanted to see if I could provide a compromise solution. Background The prioritization of IDN applications was a decision made by ICANN org well after all applications were submitted in 2012 and made a lot of sense to the community for the following reasons. (1) There were only approximate 115 IDN applications out of 1930 (about 6% of the applications); (2) it was the first round to ever accept applications for new IDN gTLDs, (3) part of the rationale for the first expansion was for innovation and expansion of the name space to the global community and (4) it was a good thing to do for the increased globalization of the Internet. Those in favor of prioritization of IDNs still believe that despite not being the first round, reasons (3) and (4) are still worthy of pursuing. Many who are not in favor of prioritization are afraid that the next round could see thousands of new applications including thousands of IDNs. To prioritize all IDNs up front could take months or even years (in theory) before a new non-IDN could be processed. Proposal – Proportional Prioritization> What is we stated that the first 10% of each batch of applications must consist of IDN applications until there are no more IDN applications. Therefore, if ICANN wants to create batches of 500 applications, the first 50 of each application batch processed must be IDNs. The remaining 450 would be random (of both IDN and Non-IDN applications). Example In a batch of 500, priority #1-50 must be IDNs; 51-500 can be either IDN or non-IDN applications. In other words if a particular IDN application is not chosen in #1-50, it would have a equal chance of being selected in 51-500. 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