Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 09 October 2017 at 15:00 UTC. 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Kind regards, Michelle ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 09 October 2017 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Monday, 09 October 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_A... Krishna Seeburn - Kris:yes Theo Geurts:It works Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:We can hear you Krishna Seeburn - Kris:it works Jim Prendergast:I have an item for AOB - could we get an update from Jeff on the discussuion he and Akram had at the Brands & Domains conference last week? thanks Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):Hello all Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):do we have adobe audio ? Jeff Neuman:@Jim - Just to clarify, you want an update on the panel we both were on, correct? We did not have a separate conversation Jim Prendergast:yes Jeff Neuman:ok...cool. I dont mind if others want to add that Jim Prendergast:i just saw the photos Jeff Neuman:Not my best side...... Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Audio is surprisingly good at 30,000 feet. Go figure. Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Monday Emily Barabas:WT4 call: Thursday, 12 October 2017 at 03:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Karen Day:From Rubens: "Call two weeks ago canceled due to conflict with WS2 schedule; call last week discussed name collisions, with good progress, and registry services, where there is still more to discuss. Call this week will focus exclusively on registry services. Steve Chan:@Jeff, no, not heard anything new Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):W/r/t GAC co-leader, it "may" be the case that their interested person is also running for GAC Chair and I suspect it would be difficult for that person to do both. Perhaps sugget that they can identify an alternate as a way to break the logjam? Jim Prendergast:Jeff - would it also make sense to circultate Martin's name to the email list as only 43 people are on the call? Greg Shatan:Apologies, I have. conflict today. I am only able to join briefly and without audio, Steve Chan:@Jeff, the approval of Cheryl is on the Consent Agenda. Michelle DeSmyter:We have been trying and no answer, we are continuing to dial her avri doria:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):does anyone have shot end URL for the Google doc? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):By "can be implemented", do we mean "Implementable"? If so, should we say that (eg. "clear, implementable . . . )? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Is the use of passive voice intentional? If not, should we be identifying the actor to avoid future uncertainty? Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sorry to be late... Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):That's a general comment (passive voice). Jeff Neuman:I have put Kristina's suggestted text in the Google doc Jeff Neuman:Instead of "effect", can we use "adverse impact" Susan Payne:apologies, I was on another call. can someone tell me where we are in the document please? Jim Prendergast:how is material determined? Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):If we're going to use "material effect," we should use ICANN's written definition of it, which would be helpul to have. Martin Sutton:@Susan - towards bottom of third page Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):yes Susan Payne:thnx Martin Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):to example of Minor process update ... lately ICANN updated so called GDD portal with the new Click through agreement (which reregistries , and later potentially applicants have to agree to), and cash things cause delays (unknown tetxt needs to pass through legal, and if the change is significant (as it was last time, the issue potentially is not minor anymore) Martin Sutton:@Susan - using the google doc https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen... Steve Chan:The document being shared should be unsynced. Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):@Jeff: having the definition of material effect that ICANN uses will be helpful to your issue, too, I think. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):<QUESTION)>What happens when ICANN does not agree with the category (ICANN see something as minor internal and community see the same as major material)? Annebeth Lange:Sorry, I have to leave. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye 👋 Annabeth Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Can not use mic, please read my question aloud Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):The same happens few days ago with GDD portal and new click through agreement (so my question was based on it) Jeff Neuman:@Avri - yep Kavouss Arasteh:Iagree with you NOT to add significantly Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Given the speed Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):of the development of new processes Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think such process needs to be design in advance, and not just when needed Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Please read my 3 lines of text Jeff Neuman:@Maxim - Good point....change in portals did result in new click-through agreement which is fundamentally different than the older one and could result in new terms superceding those in the Registry agreement Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):It was about the venue to resolve disagreements Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):OK. Will do in doc, when back to notebook Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Naming Services Portal Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Naming Services Portal Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Jeff - thanks, that was correct Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree Avri, probably best to clarify that Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):sorry, need to drop the call Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Have to drop for another meeting, which I'm also going to participate in from 30,000 feet. (This Internet thing is cool. We should keep it.) I'll read the transcript to catch up. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:😉👋 Kavouss Arasteh: Yes exactly as you said Jeff Neuman:yep Kavouss Arasteh:Have the structure of that SIRT is already determined Kavouss Arasteh:Does that SIRT representing the community? Jeff Neuman:Not yet Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):I like the standing IRT idea. Need to check all the language again between now and next meeting. Kavouss Arasteh:pls specifically mention that, if possible Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):There could be some confusion as to the role of public comments by some in the community so thats' a good idea to clarify Steve Chan:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_&d=D... Emily Barabas:Saturday 28 October (Day 1) from 12:15-15:00 and Wednesday 1 November (Day 5) from 8:30-12:00 Kavouss Arasteh: Jeff, do we would have a brief report or a working /reference doc. for the first meeting Kavouss Arasteh:we have or we would have, corrected text Martin Sutton:Unable to find the schedule on ICANN60 site - do you have the link? Roger Carney:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_&d=D... Martin Sutton:got it, thx avri doria:unless this group were to decide to change the policy about new gTLDs in the future. Martin Sutton:It was a great session, thanks Jeff Jim Prendergast:thanks Donna Austin, Neustar:I thought it is already the policy that ICANN was to move forward with a next round/application window as soon as possible after the conclusion of the 2012 round. No further approval from the community is required. avri doria:which we have tentively decided not to do Kavouss Arasteh: Prudence and pacient i are of essence Kavouss Arasteh:That is absolutely right Kavouss Arasteh: Green light is in our hand Christa Taylor:Thank-you Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks Katrin Ohlmer, DOTZON:bye, everybody. Martin Sutton:Thnaks all Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye 👋