Thanks Ariel. I agree too, this makes sense, and I’d think they know better (as a rule :).

 

Re 2, I understand the point as the need not to put too much emphasis on what was done to deal with one past contentious case; as it may be done differently for future ones - point well taken.  

 

Apologies for missing this afternoon’s call.

 

Regards,

 

Philippe

 

From: GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT [mailto:gnso-pdp3dot0-dt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Flip Petillion
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Marie Pattullo; Ariel Liang; gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org
Subject: Re: [GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT] Final Call: Review Improvements $9 & #15 by Wednesday, 20 November

 

I agree

 

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From: GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT <gnso-pdp3dot0-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>
Date: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 at 13:46
To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org" <gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT] Final Call: Review Improvements $9 & #15 by Wednesday, 20 November

 

Thanks Ariel; I see no reason why we should not simply accept all of the Ombudsman’s proposals – they make complete sense.

M

 

From: GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT <gnso-pdp3dot0-dt-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Ariel Liang
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:57 PM
To: gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org
Subject: Re: [GNSO-PDP3Dot0-DT] Final Call: Review Improvements $9 & #15 by Wednesday, 20 November

 

Dear all,

 

This is to let you know that the Ombudsman provided some input to the language concerning his potential involvement when a disagreement / conflict happens in a GNSO WG. Per his input, the implementation documents for Improvements #9 & #15 have been updated. You can see the redline edits on #9 document as follows:

 

  1. Added the sentence “Elements of confidentiality may be invoked when the Ombudsman is involved in a proceeding” at the end of the first paragraph about the Ombudsman (Section 3.3 on page 10).
  2. Deleted the reference to a previous case when the Ombudsman was involved in a GNSO WG matter (second paragraph in Section 3.3 on pages 10-11).
  3. Replaced “lodge a complaint with the Ombudsman” and “bring in the Ombudsman” with “lodge the issue and engage with the Ombudsman” consistently throughout the document.

 

#15 document reflects the same changes per points 1) & 2) above.

 

We are waiting for input from ICANN Legal and ICANN Complaints Officer, if any.

 

Thank you,

Ariel

 

From: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>
Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 5:31 PM
To: "gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org" <gnso-pdp3dot0-dt@icann.org>
Subject: Final Call: Review Improvements $9 & #15 by Wednesday, 20 November

 

Dear all,

 

We hope this message finds you well, and hope those who have traveled back home from Montreal had an uneventful trip!

 

Following the working session on Monday, 4 November, staff have updated the documents for Package 4 Improvements #9 and #15, incorporating input and suggestions received from the Small Team: 

#9 Clarification to Complaint Process in GNSO Working Group Guidelines: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pIHFupCdXoH3BSgRfu6KbzUm2jt1AQ-_MEk0JeMGU-I/edit?usp=sharing

#15 Independent Conflict Resolution: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yq__EGRYmicTGEOoZPqh6FdsXWNzFblqWwZkXhPbx7k/edit?usp=sharing

 

Please provide your final input by COB Wednesday, 20 November. In absence of concerns/objections, staff will coordinate with the Small Team lead to finalize the Package 4 documents and send to the GNSO Council no later than Friday, 22 November.

 

==

Please note:

Improvement #15 has incorporated all Pam’s suggested edits and the document is now in clean format.

 

Improvement #9:

 

Thank you,

Julie & Ariel

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