Hector
Just a couple of thoughts on your questions ..
They’re valid questions
If ICANN is accrediting the providers then I’d assume that some part of ICANN’s staff would handle the accreditation process.
At the moment ICANN has two groups of “contracted parties” namely registrars and registries. If there are issues with either not fulfilling their contractual obligations ICANN’s Compliance
team is the venue for submitting complaints. See:
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/compliance
I’d assume that if a provider was not fulfilling their obligations – once finalised – that Compliance would be the department handling complaints with respect to same.
As for accreditation – for registrars we have to follow the process here:
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/accreditation
At present there is no process that I’m aware of for a potential registrar to appeal a denial. It’s a binary process. Either you pass the accreditation or you don’t. If you don’t or
if the application is deemed to be insufficient, you can update it etc., so that it is acceptable.
I would assume that any accreditation process for P/P providers would have to follow a similar vein. Either an entity meets the requirements or they don’t. I’d also assume that any
“fail” would be for a clear reason
But maybe clarifying that this needs to be done in some form resolves this?
I’d assume, for example, that ICANN wouldn’t accredit entities that don’t meet similar criteria to those for registrars ie. They’re not criminals etc
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From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
On Behalf Of Ariel Manoff
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 3:38 PM
To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Work Plan
Dear Don,
Here are my suggested questions.
1) How will disputes about accreditation of a P/P service provider be resolved?
2) What will be the process for complaints that a particular accredited provider no longer satisfies accreditation standards?
3) Would there be an appeal mechanism if a provider is denied accreditation?
Best Personal Regards
Hector
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gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
En nombre de Volker Greimann
Enviado el: jueves, 30 de enero de 2014 11:14
Para: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Asunto: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Work Plan
Hi Gema,
One note to Main issue 3 as it is proposed: This assumes that the provider has that kind of access or ability. In many cases, the privacy service just allows for the provision of its data and acts as a forwarding service. In the case of the provider affiliated
with us, the provider has one ability only: Request the removal of its data from the whois. Other privacy services may have even less influence over the registration-
So requiring a takedown or disabling/terminating the registrants' access may not be something that a privacy or proxy service provider is set up to do, depending on how he is integrated with the registrar/reseller/registrant.
In the past we have always talked about relay and reveal. These are the main opptions every provider should have in my opinion. Anything beyond that may not be feasible and may not even be in the remit of the provider.
Volker
Am 30.01.2014 13:09, schrieb Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria:
Dear Group,
I have worked on the PPSAI Charter Questions Grouping and here you have the result.
Best regards,
Gema Campillos
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De: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Mary Wong
Enviado el: miércoles, 29 de enero de 2014 16:57
Para: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Asunto: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Work Plan
Dear Don, Jim and everyone,
One of the various items for consideration in developing the WG's Work Plan will involve the planned timing of deliverables relating to each category of questions (however many there ultimately are or whether each category is tackled by a different sub-team). The WG may wish to consider, for example, whether certain questions/categories need to be addressed before others.
Hopefully our next iteration of the Mind Map and proposed timeline/work plan will assist the WG in discussing Jim's suggestions, which reflects the methodology used in a couple of other WGs (and it is good to know that your team felt the IGO-INGO WG experience was productive and helpful, Jim!). The work plan is likely change over time depending on the nature and outcome of the WG (or sub-team) discussions, and as Jim notes certain categories (e.g. Main Issues) may be more organic than others.
Should the WG decide to proceed via sub-teams, another thing to consider would be ensuring that the work is spread evenly across the WG rather than have a small group of people spread across various sub-teams (especially if the deliverables from those are due in short order!).
I hope these thoughts are useful. To assist with your review of Jim's suggestions, I attach an updated version of Jim's document which adds the threshold question for Section III discussed on the call yesterday (using Steve's suggested wording) and with a couple of comments inserted to help provide context to one or two sub-questions that Kathy had asked about.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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From: Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@pir.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:45 AM
To: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@sgbdc.com>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Work Plan
Jim,
Thanks very much for all the work you put in on this. I am very anxious to see the group’s thoughts on it. I will reserve mine for now except to note that reviewing seven reports each week is inducing cold sweats already. :)
I will note up front though that apart from process considerations, staff support availability will have to be part of our work plan decisions.
Best,
Don
From: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@sgbdc.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 at 6:04 PM
To: Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@pir.org>, PPSAI <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>
Subject: PPSAI Work Plan
Dear Don,
As you indicated, a Work Plan should help guide our Group's efforts over the upcoming weeks. We have some suggestions, based on our positive experience in the IGO/INGO PDP Working Group.
Please give us the benefit of your thoughts on the following suggested Work Plan:
1. Summarize and compile Working Group survey responses --possibly in an Excel file, circulated among Group members. This should be a task for ICANN Staff.
2. Based on Working Group survey responses, clarify the terminology and issues in each Group of the Charter questions. Identify consensus or near-consensus responses and hold Consensus Call on these issues.
3. Create Working Group sub-teams to work on issues by group: (a) Registration; (b) Maintenance; (c) Contact; (d) Relay; (e) Reveal; (f) Publication; (g) Termination. Note that the current groupings of questions do not include “Publication” or “Termination” categories. We propose adding these categories, which would include questions taken out of other current categories, as identified in the attached redline draft. Note also that the remaining questions in the Main Issues group, an overarching category, would be addressed organically as a result of this proposed process.
a) Each sub-team produces a report, which is delivered to Don by each Friday or Saturday at the latest, so it can be combined by staff with the other sub-team reports and discussed at the upcoming Tuesday Working Group teleconference.
b) When the responses to the survey come in from the other constituencies, ICANN staff summarizes the responses for the Working Group. Each sub-team then analyzes the constituencies' and Working Group's responses (including majority and minority views) in its area, and delivers the result to Don by Friday or Saturday, so ICANN staff can combine it all in one document, such as an Excel file, for full Working Group review.
4. Working Group holds Consensus Call and revises final Excel file of responses to survey accordingly.
5. Draft report presenting (1) Consensus Proposals (if any); (2) Non-Consensus Proposals w/ Levels of Support; (3) Minority Views w/Levels of Support.
6. Present Report for Public Comment.
This process will provide a means to circle back to the remaining Main Issues questions.
Regards,
Jim
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