The Privacy Proxy Specificationis an obligation that the registrar has to uphold. We cannot be expected to police third party providers. Yet amending the Spec to make it applicable to all providers would do just that. If you mean that the terms of the spec should also be applied in an accreditation program for providers, that would be another matter.The ALAC strongly supports amending the Privacy Proxy Specification such that:
...this lacks the definition of who needs to do that verification.
- It is applicable to all Privacy and Proxy providers.
- The personal details of the beneficial user are verified in accordance with verification requirements in the 2013 RAA. The process should ensure that, at least when the information is collected, that the proposed beneficial user is a real person/organisation and that the contact details are those of the proposed beneficial user.
In other words, a clearly delineated reveal policy?
- Limits on access to the personal information of the beneficial user must be clear and balance the legitimate privacy requirements of the beneficial user as against the legitimate needs of law enforcement agencies and UDRP providers.
Good to hear. Those concerns broadly seem similar to mine.We did not - and do not - have concerns about whether the P/P beneficial user is a commercial entity or a person that uses the service for some/all commercial purposes. Our concerns are about accreditation of the P/P (who does it, who checks, what penalties), the accuracy of the Whois data (when and how) and limits on access that respect privacy obligations - balanced against legitimate needs for access to that data. There is a lot in that sentence that needs to be worked through but that is the baseline.
On 23 May 2014, at 3:08 am, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com> wrote:
Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list Kiran, I agree with your second sentence. I don't agree with the first because (a) in fact WG participants are not always representing the constituency or other group with which they identify and (b) as others have pointed out, there is only a very limited role for voting in WGs._______________________________________________
But getting back to the text that you and others proposed:
Could the proponents of the text identify the SG AC or C which they are representing in disagreeing with the position that use of p/p registrations for commercial activities should not be prohibited in accreditation standards?
Steve
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I believe we intended to make clear that, as working group members, we do not vote as individuals but rather as representatives of our individual SO/AC/C. While a vote hasn't taken place yet, it's important to remember that sheer volume of vocal individuals isn't the point, regardless of where you fall on the issue.
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On May 22, 2014, at 8:01 AM, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>> wrote:
Thanks Libby, this is a helpful contribution.
Could you clarify one point:
“However, a number of WG members, representing their SO/AC/C, disagreed….” Which SO/AC/C are you referring to ?
Steve
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
All -- as evidenced on last week's call, there is concern about the language in the draft conclusion for Cat C threshold question. Per the request for specific edits, attached are redlined edits to the template submitted for the group's consideration by FWD Strategies Int'l, LegitScript, MarkMonitor and DomainTools. We look forward to your comments and further discussion if needed.
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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> wrote:
Following on from Steve's emails, please find attached the updated templates for C3 and D1, incorporating the notes from the meeting (if I've missed anything, please share your comments / edits with the mailing list). To re-emphasise the action items from the meeting:
1. Please provide your input on the draft preliminary conclusion for C threshold, C1 and C2 as circulated by Don. Several of you suggested removing the word 'overwhelming' from the draft. Are there any other proposed edits?
2. Please provide your input on question C3, especially if you are of the view that there should be differences in the data fields displayed for commercial entity and natural person P/P registrations.
3. Please provide your input on question D1, especially whether it would be desirable to have a public registry of P/P services contact information and a requirement to respond to enquiries both from P/P customers as well as those looking to contact P/P customers. Input on what would qualify as a 'response' and a possible timeframe for responses are also encouraged.
4. Kathy and James will provide an update at the next meeting on issues surrounding transfers between registrars of P/P registrations and possible questions the WG may want to address in this context.
Best regards,
Marika
From: <Metalitz>, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>
Date: Tuesday 20 May 2014 18:06
To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>>
Subject: PPSAI WG -- questions for list
Thanks to all participants on today’s call. Following up on requests made on the call ----
Regarding Don’s draft preliminary text regarding questions C(threshold), C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially welcomed!) proposed edits. Don’s draft is re-attached here for ready reference.
Regarding question C.3: If the following applies to you, please respond on the list:
IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to commercial entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a difference in the data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is displayed for p/p registrations by natural persons)? If the answer is YES, please specify the differences.
For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any YES people will step forward on the list.
Thanks!
Steve Metalitz, vice chair
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Dear All,
Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.
Best regards,
Marika
Proposed Agenda – PPSAI WG Meeting – 20 May 2014
1. Roll Call / SOI
2. Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question, C1 and C2 (as circulated by Don)
3. Review C3 – is additional response/discussion needed in light of item 2? (see template attached)
4. Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
5. Next steps / confirm next meeting
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