I understand the benefits, but frankly it’s not possible. If the group is okay with eliminating voices and viewpoints, especially in a time where we are attempting to increase participation, diversity (gender, geographic, socioeconomic, etc.) and be more welcome to newcomers, that’s fine, but be aware of the consequences.

From: Phil Corwin [mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:34 PM
To: Kiran Malancharuvil; Mary Wong; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?

Kiran:

I understand where you are coming from.

But, the one big virtue of an all-day F2F meeting is that the participants can stick with a subject and resolve it rather than stop short due to artificial time constraints. In Singapore, despite the collective fatigue, we made far more progress in the time we engaged than we would have in any series of meetings adding up to the same time expenditure.

Besides, I can’t imagine, given the diversity of WG participants and their interests/responsibilities, that we can find any time slots for shorter meetings during the full ICANN meeting that wouldn’t present irreconcilable conflicts for a substantial portion of participants.

Best, Philip

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From: Kiran Malancharuvil [mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:26 PM
To: Phil Corwin; Mary Wong; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?

Hi Guys,

I am staunchly opposed to adding more days to the ICANN schedule. Many of us have family and work obligations that make the existing schedule almost impossible. Adding days onto the already burdensome schedule will create a problem where we risk eliminating important voices and viewpoints because participation becomes problematic.

Can we brainstorm a solution where we have more frequent shorter meetings throughout the week?

Thanks,

Kiran

From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:17 PM
To: Mary Wong; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?

I would urge looking at the 19^th rather than the 26^th.

I am one of the few people who participated in both the LA F2F of this WG and the Singapore F2F of the IGO WG.

While the meetings were not directly comparable in terms of travel distance (for me), overall meeting workload intensity, and personal responsibility (I Co-Chair the IGO WG), it is still my overall opinion that, if a F2F meeting is appropriate for PPSAI in June, it will be much better to hold it on the Friday before the ICANN meeting starts in terms of focus and productivity.. Participants may be jetlagged but they are still fresh. By the time the Friday after the meeting arrives many participants are spent physically and especially psychologically.

Take that for what it’s worth.

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From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:52 PM
To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?

Hello everyone,

As mentioned on the call, policy staff are currently checking to see what other meetings have already been scheduled for Friday 19 June that may involve a number of our WG and/or GNSO participants. Assuming there is no major conflict found, we will follow up with a Doodle poll to see which day/date works best for most people.

We thought we should also note that it will likely be very difficult to try to schedule the WG face-to-face meeting for Thursday 18 June (rather than Friday 19 or Friday 26 June), since that will likely add substantially to the travel costs for many people who have not been planning to be in Buenos Aires much before the actual start of the ICANN meeting or who are not otherwise supported travelers for the GNSO weekend sessions. As such, we suggest that the choices for the poll should be limited to one or the other Friday if possible.

Thanks and cheers

Mary

Mary Wong

Senior Policy Director

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)

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From: "dmb@donblumenthal.com" <dmb@donblumenthal.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 14:11
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?

Agreed. I also think that being able to follow up on issues during the ICANN week was useful last year.

On March 3, 2015 12:24:00 PM EST, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:

All

While I am in favour of a face to face meeting like we had in LA, I would be opposed to holding it after the main ICANN meeting for a variety of reasons.

After a full week of meetings (many of us have activities scheduled over the weekend prior to the official opening) most of us are exhausted by Thursday and probably wouldn't be mentally or physically at our best for a productive meeting on the Friday.

Regards

Michele


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