Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG¹s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters¹ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG¹s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Hi Stephanie and everyone, The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in. While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the ³external² constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council¹s November meeting, the following still has to happen: * Council votes to adopt the WG¹s consensus recommendations; * Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; * Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; * Review and vote by the ICANN Board; * Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan * Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date. As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations. Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams¹ final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics. I¹m of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin
On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote:
Dear WG members,
This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG¹s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters¹ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG¹s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Hi Mary, I must be missing something. But my reading of the SPECIFICATION ON PRIVACY AND PROXY REGISTRATIONS is that if ICANN doesn’t establish and implement a Privacy and Proxy Accreditation Program by the 1st of January 2017, the status quo will apply. The Working Group could even extend the term of the current specification. The industry has fared IMHO pretty well without such program for years now. So I am afraid rushing this process would lead to a policy that won’t satisfy the objectives of the charter or could have grave consequences for end users. Best Wishes, Luc On 21 Aug 2015 at 02:37:11, Mary Wong (mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>) wrote: Hi Stephanie and everyone, The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May – once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in. While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the “external” constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council’s November meeting, the following still has to happen: * Council votes to adopt the WG’s consensus recommendations; * Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; * Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; * Review and vote by the ICANN Board; * Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan * Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program – note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date. As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations. Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams’ final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics. I’m of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. 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I feel that we should at least wait until Dublin before we slam the door shut on further review. With the day we have for our face to face, a lot can be achieved and I feel we would be doing our work a disservice by robbing ourselves of this opportunity. Volker Am 21.08.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Mary Wong:
Hi Stephanie and everyone,
The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May – once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in.
While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the “external” constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council’s November meeting, the following still has to happen:
* Council votes to adopt the WG’s consensus recommendations; * Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; * Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; * Review and vote by the ICANN Board; * Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan * Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program – note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date.
As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations.
Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams’ final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics.
I’m of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin
On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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I feel that we should at least wait until Dublin before we slam the door shut on further review. With the day we have for our face to face, a lot can be achieved and I feel we would be doing our work a disservice by robbing ourselves of this opportunity.
Volker
Am 21.08.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Mary Wong:
Hi Stephanie and everyone,
The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May – once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in.
While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the “external” constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council’s November meeting, the following still has to happen:
- Council votes to adopt the WG’s consensus recommendations; - Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; - Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; - Review and vote by the ICANN Board; - Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan - Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program – note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date.
As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations.
Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams’ final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics.
I’m of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: < <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: " <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" < gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin
On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote:
Dear WG members,
This is a *last call* for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
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Totally agree. Stephanie Perrin On 2015-08-21 14:34, Carlton Samuels wrote:
Very sensible suggestion. -Carlton
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote:
I feel that we should at least wait until Dublin before we slam the door shut on further review. With the day we have for our face to face, a lot can be achieved and I feel we would be doing our work a disservice by robbing ourselves of this opportunity.
Volker
Am 21.08.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Mary Wong:
Hi Stephanie and everyone,
The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May – once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in.
While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the “external” constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council’s November meeting, the following still has to happen:
* Council votes to adopt the WG’s consensus recommendations; * Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; * Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; * Review and vote by the ICANN Board; * Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan * Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program – note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date.
As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations.
Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams’ final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics.
I’m of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way.
Cheers Mary
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From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin
On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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Can we get an idea of how delayed the final report will be if we extend the deadline for public comment review through Dublin? Thanks, Kiran Kiran Malancharuvil Policy Counselor MarkMonitor 415.222.8318 (t) 415.419.9138 (m) www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:32 PM To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Totally agree. Stephanie Perrin On 2015-08-21 14:34, Carlton Samuels wrote: Very sensible suggestion. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I feel that we should at least wait until Dublin before we slam the door shut on further review. With the day we have for our face to face, a lot can be achieved and I feel we would be doing our work a disservice by robbing ourselves of this opportunity. Volker Am 21.08.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Mary Wong: Hi Stephanie and everyone, The deadline was set to try to identify for the WG as many issues possibly meriting further WG consideration as we can. This will help the co-chairs plan the agendas for the coming weeks, including looking ahead to the Dublin meeting, and see how well we are able to keep to the Work Plan. As noted by Steve on the last call, the current Work Plan timeline has actually be extended since the WG issued its Initial Report in early May - once to allow for an extended public comment period as requested by some WG members, and then again subsequently in view of the number of comments that came in. While we are very cognizant of the amount of work it will take to complete a review of the comments, do note that our WG is operating under the "external" constraint that is the January 2017 expiration date of the current interim P/P specification in the RAA. Note also that even in the best case scenario under our current Work Plan, if the WG completes its Final Report in time for the GNSO Council's November meeting, the following still has to happen: * Council votes to adopt the WG's consensus recommendations; * Recommendations Report prepared for Council approval; * Report sent to the ICANN Board and publication of recommended actions by ICANN Board (i.e. adoption of the policy) published for public comment; * Review and vote by the ICANN Board; * Formation of an Implementation Review Team and development of an Implementation Plan * Finalization of operational details and announcement of launch date of accreditation program - note that GDD and the contracted parties aim for this to be six months prior to the actual effective date. As you can see from the above, the current timeline already leaves very little time to take the policy from adoption to implementation, and any further extension brings both the WG and the eventual IRT up even closer against the January 2017 deadline. Given the momentum that the Sub Teams seem to be developing on the tricky open questions, the idea was that the rest of the WG could concurrently begin to close on final recommendations for the preliminary recommendations. Perhaps it will also help to note that what is required at this stage is for the WG to consider what (if anything) needs to be changed, deleted, or added to in terms of the preliminary recommendations. The Work Plan envisages about 2-3 weeks following the Sub Teams' final reports for further WG discussion of the issues identified now for that purpose, so that by Dublin we will be able to focus on finalizing any remaining open or contentious topics. I'm of course not saying that the Work Plan cannot be changed if the co-chairs and WG members believe that to be the most appropriate thing to do, but I hope that this email setting out the context for our work is helpful in some way. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 15:26 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) What happens if we find something after the deadline, Mary? I appreciate the desire to push this thing on but I reiterate that some of us have other lives and family holidays during this period, and I think the work effort required to go through all these comments demands more time. I will keep saying this, I am trying to throw my boots off the toboggan and slow us down so that we can do a thorough job on this....the kind of job that 22000 comments deserves. Sorry if that seems not being constructive to some, but it seems only fair to me. I am sure I am not the only one who has not been through all the comments. kind regards Stephanie Perrin On 2015-08-20 12:50, Mary Wong wrote: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG's attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters' submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG's Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. 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I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers Mary
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-- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
Agreed For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Hosting & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://www.mneylon.social Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.BrandShelter.com> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. 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Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don’t see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don’t have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account. -James On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agreed For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Hosting & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://www.mneylon.social<http://www.mneylon.social/> Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.rrpproxy.net/> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com/> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.brandshelter.com/> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu/> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.rrpproxy.net/> www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com/> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.brandshelter.com/> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems> www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu/> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone. _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg
Maybe I can help with this. (Yet another) RAA Confession: I was the one behind the 1 JAN 2017 “sunset” date for the Temporary Spec on Privacy/Proxy Registrations. The thinking at the time was that we needed an expiry date to “light a fire” under ICANN to start/launch the PPSAI effort. Otherwise, there was a legitimate concern that the Temporary Spec would, by default, become “permanent.” The sunset date can be extended by mutual agreement between ICANN and Registrars. Given that many of the largest / most active registrars are participating on this working group, I don’t anticipate a lot of resistance to this idea, especially if we feel that meeting arbitrary milestone deadlines will impact the quality of our work. Hope this helps. Thanks— J. From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:42 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> Cc: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don’t see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don’t have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account. -James On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agreed For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Hosting & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://www.mneylon.social<http://www.mneylon.social/> Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.rrpproxy.net/>www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com/> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.brandshelter.com/> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu/> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net<http://www.key-systems.net/> / www.RRPproxy.net<http://www.rrpproxy.net/>www.domaindiscount24.com<http://www.domaindiscount24.com/> / www.BrandShelter.com<http://www.brandshelter.com/> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems<http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>www.twitter.com/key_systems<http://www.twitter.com/key_systems> CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu<http://www.keydrive.lu/> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone. _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg
I'm allergic to missing our deadline. From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:55 AM To: James Gannon; Michele Neylon - Blacknight Cc: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Maybe I can help with this. (Yet another) RAA Confession: I was the one behind the 1 JAN 2017 "sunset" date for the Temporary Spec on Privacy/Proxy Registrations. The thinking at the time was that we needed an expiry date to "light a fire" under ICANN to start/launch the PPSAI effort. Otherwise, there was a legitimate concern that the Temporary Spec would, by default, become "permanent." The sunset date can be extended by mutual agreement between ICANN and Registrars. Given that many of the largest / most active registrars are participating on this working group, I don't anticipate a lot of resistance to this idea, especially if we feel that meeting arbitrary milestone deadlines will impact the quality of our work. Hope this helps. Thanks- J. From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:42 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> Cc: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don't see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don't have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account. -James On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agreed For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Hosting & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://www.mneylon.social<http://www.mneylon.social/> Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG's attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters' submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG's Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. 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Fair enough. But the point of my note was that the deadline was an incentive to get the PPSAI work -started–, rather than constrain how it finishes. Thanks— J. From: "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:16 To: James Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>>, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> Cc: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) I’m allergic to missing our deadline. From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:55 AM To: James Gannon; Michele Neylon - Blacknight Cc: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Maybe I can help with this. (Yet another) RAA Confession: I was the one behind the 1 JAN 2017 “sunset” date for the Temporary Spec on Privacy/Proxy Registrations. The thinking at the time was that we needed an expiry date to “light a fire” under ICANN to start/launch the PPSAI effort. Otherwise, there was a legitimate concern that the Temporary Spec would, by default, become “permanent.” The sunset date can be extended by mutual agreement between ICANN and Registrars. Given that many of the largest / most active registrars are participating on this working group, I don’t anticipate a lot of resistance to this idea, especially if we feel that meeting arbitrary milestone deadlines will impact the quality of our work. Hope this helps. Thanks— J. From: <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:42 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> Cc: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4) Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don’t see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don’t have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account. -James On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agreed For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are Regards Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Hosting & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://www.mneylon.social<http://www.mneylon.social/> Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with. Best, Volker Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong: Dear WG members, This is a last call for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but no later than Monday (a day before the call) if at all possible. Please also find attached two documents - (1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and (2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool. These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. 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I'm more allergic to missing/ignoring comments submitted during the public comment period ;-) And if we worked on changing the deadline we wouldn't be missing it. /FM On 2015-08-21 12:16 PM, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:
I’m allergic to missing our deadline.
*From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *James M. Bladel *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 7:55 AM *To:* James Gannon; Michele Neylon - Blacknight *Cc:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
Maybe I can help with this.
(Yet another) RAA Confession: I was the one behind the 1 JAN 2017 “sunset” date for the Temporary Spec on Privacy/Proxy Registrations. The thinking at the time was that we needed an expiry date to “light a fire” under ICANN to start/launch the PPSAI effort. Otherwise, there was a legitimate concern that the Temporary Spec would, by default, become “permanent.”
The sunset date can be extended by mutual agreement between ICANN and Registrars. Given that many of the largest / most active registrars are participating on this working group, I don’t anticipate a lot of resistance to this idea, especially if we feel that meeting arbitrary milestone deadlines will impact the quality of our work.
Hope this helps.
Thanks—
J.
*From: *<gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> *Date: *Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:42 *To: *Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> *Cc: *PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don’t see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don’t have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account.
-James
On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote:
Agreed
For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are
Regards
Michele
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Hosting & Domains
http://www.mneylon.social <http://www.mneylon.social/>
Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal
On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote:
I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with.
Best,
Volker
Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
Why? Am 21.08.2015 um 18:16 schrieb McGrady, Paul D.:
I’m allergic to missing our deadline.
*From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *James M. Bladel *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 7:55 AM *To:* James Gannon; Michele Neylon - Blacknight *Cc:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
Maybe I can help with this.
(Yet another) RAA Confession: I was the one behind the 1 JAN 2017 “sunset” date for the Temporary Spec on Privacy/Proxy Registrations. The thinking at the time was that we needed an expiry date to “light a fire” under ICANN to start/launch the PPSAI effort. Otherwise, there was a legitimate concern that the Temporary Spec would, by default, become “permanent.”
The sunset date can be extended by mutual agreement between ICANN and Registrars. Given that many of the largest / most active registrars are participating on this working group, I don’t anticipate a lot of resistance to this idea, especially if we feel that meeting arbitrary milestone deadlines will impact the quality of our work.
Hope this helps.
Thanks—
J.
*From: *<gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> *Date: *Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:42 *To: *Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> *Cc: *PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Last call for Issue-Spotting on Part 2 plus New Comments to Review (Parts 3 & 4)
Yes unfortunately the timing on this I don’t see working out, given that this is vacation season for the northern hemisphere, the volume of comments, and the complexity associated with moving forward I think we need to take heed of these issues and look t what timeline will give the best outcome and not necessarily meet specific dates that we have framed out deliberations around to date. We don’t have a drop dead date where we must be finished by, as there are backstops built into the RAA, and we need to take that into account.
-James
On 21 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote:
Agreed
For a lot of us this is holiday season and we are either on holiday (hello from Croatia!) or we are covering for people who are
Regards
Michele
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Hosting & Domains
http://www.mneylon.social <http://www.mneylon.social/>
Sent from mobile so typos and brevity are normal
On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote:
I object to the cutoff. We should allow more time for review and raising of issues due to the holiday season in Europe. We have no objective need to rush and should take the time we need to get this right, rather than getting this over with.
Best,
Volker
Am 20.08.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Mary Wong:
Dear WG members,
This is a _last call_ for any issues that you would like to bring to the WG’s attention concerning Part 2 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool (first circulated on 10 August), similar to the approach we adopted for issue-spotting in Part 1. Please send these to the email list for consideration at the next WG call as soon as you can, but *no later than Monday* (a day before the call) if at all possible.
Please also find attached two documents -
(1) Part 3 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing excerpts from public comments sent directly to the public comment forum and responses to the online questions template that cover all the WG's remaining preliminary recommendations aside from those being analyzed by the Sub Teams (i.e. Preliminary Recommendations #16-20); and
(2) Part 4 of the WG Public Comment Review Tool, containing those comments and suggestions made by commenters and template responders that were not specifically framed as responses to particular WG recommendations. Part 4 also contains two additional elements, viz. a list of the types of concerns raised by signatories to the Save Domain Privacy petition (much of which is also reflected in many of the general comments received in the public comment forum), and a list of commenters who supported or endorsed other commenters’ submissions. While this Part 4 may be of particular usefulness to Sub Team 4, we attach it here to facilitate the WG's review of all the remaining comments not otherwise summarized in other parts of the Tool.
These two documents are the last in the series of documents that comprise the WG’s Public Comment Review Tool for our Initial Report, not including the additional documents that were prepared for the various Sub Teams that will also form part of the record for the Final Report. I should point out that some of the comments in these two documents include some strong language, but we have chosen to leave them in as they were sent in the same way as comments that used less robust language; I hope that is all right.
Cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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Carlton Samuels -
Frank Michlick -
James Gannon -
James M. Bladel -
Kiran Malancharuvil -
Luc SEUFER -
Mary Wong -
McGrady, Paul D. -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Stephanie Perrin -
Volker Greimann