Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 3 November 2015 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-03nov15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03Zqpst5-2F-2BMZ0ZdABijUaS0W5ahaXwBAxPLkGU2Ab865Eq-2Bsgg-3D-3D_ExQpjP5gt1cFzAzN52twqTBV3K8BwR6GGpVa2x6T1sg8JgqSY4cfHGgpC-2F6btNvPSQ3YkDUgqog-2FbkF37-2BMajytvgnUMIVE0Tt49pYZoqVchaGh4UqHez2GxQx5cIB2MIwyhKiD4RKxVfFbpVuy1HnXp77QN-2BFBoBvNSX-2FGtcUfNQJ0zWX2Q2uCVRCL3x9CrIkwkCJvnWwS5WtffhwMUKaOOqbR7yAq0tyOYQrdQPvBU9wyXvCHV21YnUFb-2Bad1Aal63fSbKg-2BuYT87hjgEqshKgxdFkR8td47m6DKrQTHxmsbNWuzLvqL3-2BROfI4MRtS-2B-2BGNr35xwc0XcUpP-2BrHNVIORlZJZ5o8gUexao3LehU8jku2P5RKg337U6gR3gojnmV34qT-2B2Juwn1fDG9obEL3n5cfiNCkuWCkG9SFpuBxS4ZrJuYuGuJSjSPpiTXGRnthwgEs63lkMJH2FX7PlxjdO54ndOO9vUrUfs-2BxF9Eq4Bzbx3Pvd1NaEvpJ6kj5G> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Alex Deacon - IPC Darcy Southwell - RrSG David Hughes - IPC Don Blumenthal - RySG Frank Michlick - Individual Graeme Bunton - RrSG Griffin Barnett - IPC James Bladel - RrSG James Gannon - NCUC Kathy Kleiman - NCSG Lindsay Hamilton-Reid - RrSG Paul McGrady - IPC Phil Corwin - BC Sara Bockey - RrSG Sarah Wyld - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG Steve Metalitz - IPC Susan Kawaguchi - BC Terri Stumme - BC Todd Williams - IPC Vicky Sheckler - IPC Volker Greimann - RrSG Apologies: Holly Raiche - ALAC Michele Neylon - RrSG Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Gisella Gruber ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Gisella ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 3 November 2015 Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the PPSAI WG call on the 3rd November 2015 at 1500 UTC Graeme Bunton:Meeting room is muted, and computer audio is yet to be enabled. Mary Wong:@Graeme, is audio/mic not working for you? Gisella Gruber:Good morning/afternoon to all Gisella Gruber:Audio has been enabled James Bladel:Awesome thanks. That was my cheerful mic-check. :) Graeme Bunton:I'm hearing some rustley typing sounds Kathy:Gisella should be a Hollywood announcer Gisella Gruber:Darcy Southwell has joined the call James Bladel:Steve is a bit faint for me. Anyone else? Mary Wong:@Steve, the revised agenda is in the right hand side notes pod. Gisella Gruber:@ James - good audio for me James Bladel:ok. if it persists, I'll reconnect. Stephanie Perrin:Was faint for me as well James. ok now. James Bladel:Agree, better now. Gisella Gruber:Paul McGrady has joined the call Kathy:Is an unaffiliated provider also an unaccredited provider? Graeme Bunton:My understanding is no, Kathy. Accredited but unaffiliated Kathy:tx! Kathy:I think this addresses very important issues - just want to check it more closely. Tx to drafters! Mary Wong:"Affiliated" per the 2013 RAA is defined as ""Affiliate" means a person or entity that, directly or indirectly, through one or more intermediaries, Controls, is controlled by, or is under common control with, the person or entity specified." Kathy:Tx Mary, can we include that in the document? Mary Wong:@Kathy, I'll check but I believe that is (or at least was) in the Initial Report and so should have been retained in the draft Final Report. Kathy:sure steve metalitz:Section III is on page 7 of the document on your screen Gisella Gruber:Bruce McDonald has joined the call Gisella Gruber:Welcome Don! James Bladel:Ok thanks, Todd. Gisella Gruber:James Gannon joined the call Mary Wong:@Kathy, does "your domicile" in Option 2 mean the place of incorporation for corporate entities? Also, should it be "or" rather than "and" for the jurisdiction? James Bladel:Good point, Steve. Our sevice agreements use AZ jurisdiction, but we have since reincorporated in Delaware. Graeme Bunton:Tucows, the Registrar, is Canadian and located in Toronto. Mary Wong:For clarity, UDRP rules indicate either "principal office" of registrar or RNH's address as shown in WHOIS - does that help? Graeme Bunton:That seems sensible, James Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ todd Vicky Sheckler:disagree w/ kathy. James Gannon:Agree with Kathy here Mary Wong:This raises conflict of laws issues - in Steve's example, would the Panama courts accept jurisdiction, and what law (choice of law) would apply to the dispute? James Gannon:I share James's concerns and would like to see something similar. Gisella Gruber:Alex Deacon has joined the call Stephanie Perrin:I agree with the need to see it all put together.... James Gannon:And before its noted I think we need to assess this prior to the irt stage Kathy:agreed James Bladel:Maybe one question would be: Does anyone have any objections to asking Staff to conduct this analysis now or in the very near future? James Gannon:No objcetion from me Kathy:Steve: can you recirculate this document? Kathy:on the list/ Graeme Bunton:Of course, Kathy Kathy:Tx Graeme! Mary Wong:Per Steve's comment - yes, we have only addressed those points that seem policy-related; some feedback concern specific implementation details that probably don't fit in a policy document. Paul McGrady:Thanks!! James Bladel:Thanks.