Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014
Thank you, Mary. I vote for #2 and #3. Best regards, Darcy Southwell Darcy Southwell Director, Registrar Compliance | The Endurance International Group Mobile +1.503.453.7305 | darcy.southwell@endurance.com | Skype: darcy.enyeart From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM To: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014 Dear WG members, After consultation with the WG chairs, we would like to propose the following as topics that we thought would benefit from further and more in-depth discussion during the WG¹s upcoming face-to-face facilitated session in Los Angeles on Friday 10 October. Please reply (off list to me is fine) with your top two choices of preferred topics note that the last option also allows anyone to add a topic (based on the group¹s Preliminary Conclusions and templates to date, and following the Charter questions and agreed categories A-G) that is not specifically listed below. Staff will compile a list of the top three topics selected by the most WG members for discussion at the 10 October session.
1. What rights/responsibilities and obligations should be communicated by P/P service providers to customers/registrants with regard to transfers and renewals of domain name registrations? (from Category B Question 3 see attached report from the Transfers Issues sub-team (James and Kathy); the WG Template including Preliminary Conclusions can be reviewed at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
2. Further discussion on Category E Relay (see WG Templates including Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg; specifically, the three remaining ³open questions², i.e.:
(a) Should providers be required to forward hard copy notices to registrants/customers, on request, in cases where electronic communications are known to be undeliverable? (b) Should providers be permitted to charge a reasonable fee to forward non-electronic communications that incur a cost to do so (this could include monetary costs such as charges for registered mail and/or other resource costs such as man-hours to review/strip out personal information from a communication)? (c) If a provider chooses not to forward an allegation of illegal activity, should there be an obligation for a provider to inform a requestor when the provider does not forward its request?
3. Further discussion on Category F Reveal (specific questions TBD depending on extent of WG discussions between now and 10 October; see draft WG Templates and current Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
4. What aspects of the current temporary P/P specification in the 2013 RAA should be retained and/or expanded for the accreditation program? What is not in the current specification but should be? (See https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#priv... y-proxy)
5. What are the business practices that a P/P provider should disclose to potential and actual customers, as part of the accreditation program?
6. Any other suggestions not already on this list?
We attach also a suggested proposed agenda for the day including proposed ³ground rules² that have been found to have been extremely useful for focusing discussions and a document on Collaborative Reminders prepared by our professional facilitators that similarly are intended to facilitate useful constructive discussion and outcomes based on the objectives of our session. On behalf of the WG chairs, we look forward to your feedback on the topics for our LA discussion. Please indicate your choices as soon as possible and in any event by this Friday 3 October. Thank you! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Same here, but folks we really have to take a comprehensive look at topic #1 at some point. While IP protection mechanisms may be a hot topic at ICANN, the impact on transfers & renewals will be the yardstick used by the "real world" to measure the success-or failure--of our work. J. From: Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com<mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 23:39 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014 Thank you, Mary. I vote for #2 and #3. Best regards, Darcy Southwell [Description: Description: compass-high-res 2] Darcy Southwell Director, Registrar Compliance | The Endurance International Group Mobile +1.503.453.7305 | darcy.southwell@endurance.com<mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com> | Skype: darcy.enyeart From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM To: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014 Dear WG members, After consultation with the WG chairs, we would like to propose the following as topics that we thought would benefit from further and more in-depth discussion during the WG's upcoming face-to-face facilitated session in Los Angeles on Friday 10 October. Please reply (off list to me is fine) with your top two choices of preferred topics - note that the last option also allows anyone to add a topic (based on the group's Preliminary Conclusions and templates to date, and following the Charter questions and agreed categories A-G) that is not specifically listed below. Staff will compile a list of the top three topics selected by the most WG members for discussion at the 10 October session. 1. What rights/responsibilities and obligations should be communicated by P/P service providers to customers/registrants with regard to transfers and renewals of domain name registrations? (from Category B Question 3 - see attached report from the Transfers Issues sub-team (James and Kathy); the WG Template including Preliminary Conclusions can be reviewed at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg) 2. Further discussion on Category E - Relay (see WG Templates including Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg; specifically, the three remaining "open questions", i.e.: (a) Should providers be required to forward hard copy notices to registrants/customers, on request, in cases where electronic communications are known to be undeliverable? (b) Should providers be permitted to charge a reasonable fee to forward non-electronic communications that incur a cost to do so (this could include monetary costs such as charges for registered mail and/or other resource costs such as man-hours to review/strip out personal information from a communication)? (c) If a provider chooses not to forward an allegation of illegal activity, should there be an obligation for a provider to inform a requestor when the provider does not forward its request? 3. Further discussion on Category F- Reveal (specific questions TBD depending on extent of WG discussions between now and 10 October; see draft WG Templates and current Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg) 4. What aspects of the current temporary P/P specification in the 2013 RAA should be retained and/or expanded for the accreditation program? What is not in the current specification but should be? (See https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#priv...) 5. What are the business practices that a P/P provider should disclose to potential and actual customers, as part of the accreditation program? 6. Any other suggestions not already on this list? We attach also a suggested proposed agenda for the day - including proposed "ground rules" that have been found to have been extremely useful for focusing discussions - and a document on Collaborative Reminders prepared by our professional facilitators that similarly are intended to facilitate useful constructive discussion and outcomes based on the objectives of our session. On behalf of the WG chairs, we look forward to your feedback on the topics for our LA discussion. Please indicate your choices as soon as possible and in any event by this Friday 3 October. Thank you! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg
Hi All, Sorry for the delay, but I have given this some thought. I agree we need to continue our work on #3, Reveal, and I completely agree with James that #1 is key. Transfers and renewals while keeping privacy protection is a key part of our work and something in which we (this WG) can make a difference and set a new baseline. So I would recommend, #3 and #1 (in that order) -- and circling back to #2 Relay later when we have nailed down Reveal. The reason why is that I can think Relay will change depending on what we decide for Reveal... Best, Kathy :
Same here, but folks we really have to take a comprehensive look at topic #1 at some point. While IP protection mechanisms may be a hot topic at ICANN, the impact on transfers & renewals will be the yardstick used by the "real world" to measure the success---or failure--of our work.
J.
From: Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 23:39 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014
Thank you, Mary. I vote for #2 and #3.
Best regards, Darcy Southwell
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*Darcy Southwell*
Director, Registrar Compliance | *The Endurance International Group*
Mobile +1.503.453.7305 | darcy.southwell@endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com> | Skype: darcy.enyeart
From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM To: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014
Dear WG members,
After consultation with the WG chairs, we would like to propose the following as topics that we thought would benefit from further and more in-depth discussion during the WG's upcoming face-to-face facilitated session in Los Angeles on Friday 10 October.
Please reply (off list to me is fine) with your /*top two*/ choices of preferred topics -- note that the last option also allows anyone to add a topic (based on the group's Preliminary Conclusions and templates to date, and following the Charter questions and agreed categories A-G) that is not specifically listed below. Staff will compile a list of the top three topics selected by the most WG members for discussion at the 10 October session.
*1. What rights/responsibilities and obligations should be communicated by P/P service providers to customers/registrants with regard to transfers and renewals of domain name registrations? *(from Category B Question 3 -- see attached report from the Transfers Issues sub-team (James and Kathy); the WG Template including Preliminary Conclusions can be reviewed at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
*2. Further discussion on Category E -- Relay* (see WG Templates including Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg; specifically, the three remaining "open questions", i.e.:
(a) Should providers be required to forward hard copy notices to registrants/customers, on request, in cases where electronic communications are known to be undeliverable? (b) Should providers be permitted to charge a reasonable fee to forward non-electronic communications that incur a cost to do so (this could include monetary costs such as charges for registered mail and/or other resource costs such as man-hours to review/strip out personal information from a communication)? (c) If a provider chooses not to forward an allegation of illegal activity, should there be an obligation for a provider to inform a requestor when the provider does not forward its request?
*3. Further discussion on Category F*-- Reveal (specific questions TBD depending on extent of WG discussions between now and 10 October; see draft WG Templates and current Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
*4. What aspects of the current temporary P/P specification in the 2013 RAA should be retained and/or expanded for the accreditation program? What is not in the current specification but should be?* (See https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#priv...)
*5. What are the business practices that a P/P provider should disclose to potential and actual customers, as part of the accreditation program?*
*6. Any other suggestions not already on this list?*
We attach also a suggested proposed agenda for the day -- including proposed "ground rules" that have been found to have been extremely useful for focusing discussions -- and a document on Collaborative Reminders prepared by our professional facilitators that similarly are intended to facilitate useful constructive discussion and outcomes based on the objectives of our session.
On behalf of the WG chairs, we look forward to your feedback on the topics for our LA discussion. Please indicate your choices as soon as possible and in any event by this *Friday 3 October*. Thank you!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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Hi All, I just thought I would expand a bit on my earlier email. The intermix of reveal and relay seems to be an art. Some p/p providers rely more on Reveal, others on Relay. Basically it seems to be a balance between the two services, but the balance seems to be a bit different for each P/P. But the key seems to be Reveal. Until we nail that down (and I do not yet see a common baseline other than case by case analysis, which I support), I don't think we can nail down Relay (which appears to play a greater role in P/P Providers with case by case analysis for Reveal). If I understand things correctly (and I may not :-)), then I think we should wrap up Reveal, sit back, evaluate and then finish up Relay. I don't think we can do them both at once in LA or that we should finish Relay first. Hence, my vote for Reveal then Transfer/Renewal -- #3 and #1. More than enough for one day? Best, Kathy
Hi All, Sorry for the delay, but I have given this some thought. I agree we need to continue our work on #3, Reveal, and I completely agree with James that #1 is key. Transfers and renewals while keeping privacy protection is a key part of our work and something in which we (this WG) can make a difference and set a new baseline.
So I would recommend, #3 and #1 (in that order) -- and circling back to #2 Relay later when we have nailed down Reveal. The reason why is that I can think Relay will change depending on what we decide for Reveal...
Best, Kathy
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Same here, but folks we really have to take a comprehensive look at topic #1 at some point. While IP protection mechanisms may be a hot topic at ICANN, the impact on transfers & renewals will be the yardstick used by the "real world" to measure the success---or failure--of our work.
J.
From: Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 23:39 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014
Thank you, Mary. I vote for #2 and #3.
Best regards, Darcy Southwell
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*Darcy Southwell*
Director, Registrar Compliance | *The Endurance International Group*
Mobile +1.503.453.7305 | darcy.southwell@endurance.com <mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com> | Skype: darcy.enyeart
From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Monday, September 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM To: PPSAI WG <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014
Dear WG members,
After consultation with the WG chairs, we would like to propose the following as topics that we thought would benefit from further and more in-depth discussion during the WG's upcoming face-to-face facilitated session in Los Angeles on Friday 10 October.
Please reply (off list to me is fine) with your /*top two*/ choices of preferred topics -- note that the last option also allows anyone to add a topic (based on the group's Preliminary Conclusions and templates to date, and following the Charter questions and agreed categories A-G) that is not specifically listed below. Staff will compile a list of the top three topics selected by the most WG members for discussion at the 10 October session.
*1. What rights/responsibilities and obligations should be communicated by P/P service providers to customers/registrants with regard to transfers and renewals of domain name registrations? *(from Category B Question 3 -- see attached report from the Transfers Issues sub-team (James and Kathy); the WG Template including Preliminary Conclusions can be reviewed at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
*2. Further discussion on Category E -- Relay* (see WG Templates including Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg; specifically, the three remaining "open questions", i.e.:
(a) Should providers be required to forward hard copy notices to registrants/customers, on request, in cases where electronic communications are known to be undeliverable? (b) Should providers be permitted to charge a reasonable fee to forward non-electronic communications that incur a cost to do so (this could include monetary costs such as charges for registered mail and/or other resource costs such as man-hours to review/strip out personal information from a communication)? (c) If a provider chooses not to forward an allegation of illegal activity, should there be an obligation for a provider to inform a requestor when the provider does not forward its request?
*3. Further discussion on Category F*-- Reveal (specific questions TBD depending on extent of WG discussions between now and 10 October; see draft WG Templates and current Preliminary Conclusions at https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg)
*4. What aspects of the current temporary P/P specification in the 2013 RAA should be retained and/or expanded for the accreditation program? What is not in the current specification but should be?* (See https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#priv...)
*5. What are the business practices that a P/P provider should disclose to potential and actual customers, as part of the accreditation program?*
*6. Any other suggestions not already on this list?*
We attach also a suggested proposed agenda for the day -- including proposed "ground rules" that have been found to have been extremely useful for focusing discussions -- and a document on Collaborative Reminders prepared by our professional facilitators that similarly are intended to facilitate useful constructive discussion and outcomes based on the objectives of our session.
On behalf of the WG chairs, we look forward to your feedback on the topics for our LA discussion. Please indicate your choices as soon as possible and in any event by this *Friday 3 October*. Thank you!
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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Kathy Kleiman