Re: [Gnso-rdrs-sc] Fw: REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025
Hi Paul I had a chat with NCSG and this is some of our members take: Some members of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) wish to emphasize the following points in the context of the Council Working Group on Accuracy: We appreciate the update on the group’s progress and the discussion around improving data validation practices. We would like to reaffirm a key principle that has emerged in our discussions: accuracy should not be conflated with identification. The core objective is to ensure contactability of the registrant, not necessarily to uncover or verify their specific identity. During the initial meeting, a data point from the informal report was cited: “Earlier validation of registrant data can lead to a possible 70% reduction in maliciousness.” While this is worth examining further, it’s important to note that registrants are already obligated to validate their data or risk suspension by registrars. Therefore, any new measures must avoid imposing additional heavy burdens or assuming that earlier validation should mean more intrusive identity checks. Some members expressed caution about proposals like reducing the validation window from 14 days to 7. While such pressure may at times be necessary to deter abuse, it must be paired with effective support mechanisms that make it easy for registrants to comply and avoid unintended loss of their domain. This includes clear instructions, timely reminders, and accessible tools for validation. A priority for many in the NCSG is registrant education. Instead of relying solely on generic outreach methods such as webinars, we believe that embedding clear, timely messages during the registration process—such as FAQs, in-line explanations, and proactive forewarnings—would be far more effective and user-friendly. Some members also support starting with a survey or questionnaire to better understand registrant needs and experiences. Volunteers from NCSG are happy to contribute to any efforts focused on improving registrant education and awareness around data validation requirements. Farzaneh On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 8:56 AM Paul McGrady via Gnso-rdrs-sc < gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Fabulous Staff!
If I can have two slides tomorrow, that would be perfect.
First, the three ring circus slide we already have. Second, a slide with just the three Golden Nuggets on it (please phrase these better/smarter than me):
- Earlier validation of registrant data leading to possible 70% reduction in maliciousness - Notation of suspended status in the RDS record - Registrant education on why accurate data is important and why that data is safe
Muchos!
Best, Paul
------------------------------ *From:* Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:52 AM *To:* gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org>; Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org> *Cc:* GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025
Thanks Terri.
All, the agenda tomorrow is just to get feedback from each of you that you obtained from your communities about the "golden nuggets" and to ensure alignment prior to Council-led/provided updates while in Prague. This is not to say we have made any decisions on what to recommend to Council, we are just providing an update on our current thinking so that the GAC and others know we are moving forward to address concerns and seek resolutions. We may have a very short call on our hands and, if so, that is OK too. Talk soon.
Best, Paul
------------------------------ *From:* Terri Agnew via Gnso-rda-smallteam <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:34 AM *To:* gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org> *Cc:* GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org> *Subject:* [Gnso-rda-smallteam] REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025
Dear all,
The next call for the GNSO Council's Registration Data Accuracy Small Team will take place on *Thursday, 29 May 2025 at 13:00 UTC* for 55 minutes.
*Join from PC, Mac, iPad, or Android:*
Zoom Webinar link: *https://icann.zoom.us/j/91555564642?pwd=QnlKeXhycVVJdklMUHJTTjlsdnhRQT09 <https://icann.zoom.us/j/91555564642?pwd=QnlKeXhycVVJdklMUHJTTjlsdnhRQT09>*
Passcode:4^NT$6A9$.
*Audio only:*
Webinar ID: 915 5556 4642
Passcode: 6982547835
International numbers available: *https://icann.zoom.us/u/abKXhMNgh <https://icann.zoom.us/u/abKXhMNgh>*
*Accuracy Small Team Wiki space: **https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/DQCiCg <https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/DQCiCg>*
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Julie
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Farzaneh, Thank you so much for this excellent, and timely, feedback! It is appreciated. Best, Paul ________________________________ From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 6:52 PM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>; caitlin.tubergen@icann.org <caitlin.tubergen@icann.org>; gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rdrs-sc] Fw: REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025 Hi Paul I had a chat with NCSG and this is some of our members take: Some members of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) wish to emphasize the following points in the context of the Council Working Group on Accuracy: We appreciate the update on the group’s progress and the discussion around improving data validation practices. We would like to reaffirm a key principle that has emerged in our discussions: accuracy should not be conflated with identification. The core objective is to ensure contactability of the registrant, not necessarily to uncover or verify their specific identity. During the initial meeting, a data point from the informal report was cited: “Earlier validation of registrant data can lead to a possible 70% reduction in maliciousness.” While this is worth examining further, it’s important to note that registrants are already obligated to validate their data or risk suspension by registrars. Therefore, any new measures must avoid imposing additional heavy burdens or assuming that earlier validation should mean more intrusive identity checks. Some members expressed caution about proposals like reducing the validation window from 14 days to 7. While such pressure may at times be necessary to deter abuse, it must be paired with effective support mechanisms that make it easy for registrants to comply and avoid unintended loss of their domain. This includes clear instructions, timely reminders, and accessible tools for validation. A priority for many in the NCSG is registrant education. Instead of relying solely on generic outreach methods such as webinars, we believe that embedding clear, timely messages during the registration process—such as FAQs, in-line explanations, and proactive forewarnings—would be far more effective and user-friendly. Some members also support starting with a survey or questionnaire to better understand registrant needs and experiences. Volunteers from NCSG are happy to contribute to any efforts focused on improving registrant education and awareness around data validation requirements. Farzaneh On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 8:56 AM Paul McGrady via Gnso-rdrs-sc <gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rdrs-sc@icann.org>> wrote: Hello Fabulous Staff! If I can have two slides tomorrow, that would be perfect. First, the three ring circus slide we already have. Second, a slide with just the three Golden Nuggets on it (please phrase these better/smarter than me): * Earlier validation of registrant data leading to possible 70% reduction in maliciousness * Notation of suspended status in the RDS record * Registrant education on why accurate data is important and why that data is safe Muchos! Best, Paul ________________________________ From: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:52 AM To: gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org> <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org>>; Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>> Cc: GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025 Thanks Terri. All, the agenda tomorrow is just to get feedback from each of you that you obtained from your communities about the "golden nuggets" and to ensure alignment prior to Council-led/provided updates while in Prague. This is not to say we have made any decisions on what to recommend to Council, we are just providing an update on our current thinking so that the GAC and others know we are moving forward to address concerns and seek resolutions. We may have a very short call on our hands and, if so, that is OK too. Talk soon. Best, Paul ________________________________ From: Terri Agnew via Gnso-rda-smallteam <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:34 AM To: gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org> <gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rda-smallteam@icann.org>> Cc: GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [Gnso-rda-smallteam] REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | GNSO Council's Accuracy Small Team call | Thursday, 29 May 2025 Dear all, The next call for the GNSO Council's Registration Data Accuracy Small Team will take place on Thursday, 29 May 2025 at 13:00 UTC for 55 minutes. Join from PC, Mac, iPad, or Android: Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/91555564642?pwd=QnlKeXhycVVJdklMUHJTTjlsdnhRQT09 Passcode:4^NT$6A9$. 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