Lisa,
Here, since there are contracts, a bit more specific wording could say something about the rights and duties of the registrar and the domain name holder as detailed i the contract. (I like "domain name owner" but there are those who do not like "owner" so I guess something like "legal domain name holder" might be better wording.
We should on occasion use some of the legal clauses, depending on the context, where they say things like "if not included, it is excluded" or "if not excluded, it is included". This is better than long lists of what is, or is not, included.
Sam
Hi Sam, good point.
How about we add a footnote indicating that such expectations are detailed in the services agreement between the buyer/seller and the PP provider or registrar?
Best, Lisa
At 10:54 AM 3/5/2018, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
I must be a little dense here. I don’t understand why these two points don’t simple go without saying. If I buy Privacy/Proxy service, it should do what it is supposed to. It hides me but reliably relays communications when it is contacted. I also expect a registrar to do with it is contracted to do in terms of transfer services for domain name holders. (I expect some blockchain supported techniques to pop up here.).
Sam L.
On 3/4/2018 7:21 PM, Lisa Phifer wrote:
DT4,
Attached is an updated draft of answers to questions we have been asked to answer no later than 7 March for discussion at ICANN61.
In this draft, I have applied the changes suggested by Erica below.
Does anyone have any further edits to the attached draft - especially to address the questions raised below?
Please supply any edits by COB Monday 5 March.
Also, will any of you be on the 6 March WG call to provide a status update on behalf of this drafting team?
Best, Lisa
At 07:15 AM 2/28/2018, Lisa Phifer wrote:
Thanks very much Erica –
Does anyone have any suggested text for why the registrars need to be identified or contacted (and by whom), the expectations of the registrars, etc?
We may also want to add something about the benefit to both buyer and seller Рa point raised on yesterday̢۪s WG call but after I r I took my first cut at that draft.
Best, Lisa
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Hi Lisa,
Thank you for writing the first draft!
I read through and only have one minor suggestion. On the following line, I would suggest adding that both the buyer and the seller expect communication to be reliably relayed.
> In the case of relayed communication, the buyer **and seller** expect communication to be reliably relayed by the Privacy/Proxy to the authentic entity who has legal rights to sell the domain name.
Regarding the final question, I believe the answer is yes. One the seller initiates the transfer, the registrar should complete the translate process post-acquisition.
Curious to hear others' thoughts too!
 Best,
Erica
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