Dear all, Please find below the Adobe Connect recording, chat and attendance from the Next-Gen RDS drafting team #7: Criminal Investigation or DNS Abuse Mitigation call on Wednesday, 18 October 2017 at 17:00 UTC. Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p6upmiw6ybo/<https://participate.icann.org/p6upmiw6ybo/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=ba32205baa7d5c6f9f2d022df27c77f6f8ad33f70eee561c5b2448cd9588aee0> Attendance: Marika Konings Dic Leaning, Rod Rasmussen, Ayden Ferdeline, Marc Anderson, Raoul Plommer Staff: Julie Bisland Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Adobe Connect Chat: Julie Bisland: (10/18/2017 09:43) Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS Drafting team #7: Criminal Investigation or DNS Abuse Mitigation on Wednesday, 18 October 2017 at 17:00 UTC. Ayden Férdeline: (12:01) Hi all. Adobe Connect is super slow for me today... I am not sure if it is just my connection, or the platform? (Other websites are loading fine.) Dic Leaning: (12:01) HI Dic Leaning: (12:02) Mmmmm i cant connect audiio etc via my lap top Dic Leaning: (12:02) it keeps wanting me to connect via phone Julie Bisland: (12:02) ohh goodness, Dic, try now Julie Bisland: (12:02) i've enable the audio now Dic Leaning: (12:03) Thanks Julie, in Marika Konings: (12:03) Dic, I can hear you typing :-) Julie Bisland: (12:03) oh good, sorry for that. :) Raoul Plommer: (12:04) I can only participate in text at this time, but I'll try to follow Ayden Férdeline: (12:05) I cannot hear anything. Can others? Dic Leaning: (12:05) yes Julie Bisland: (12:06) Ayden, i'll private message you Rod Rasmussen: (12:06) Sound is fine Raoul Plommer: (12:20) Ok, I can type Raoul Plommer: (12:20) I'm a digital rights activist for 10 yrs now and the VC of NPOC Raoul Plommer: (12:20) Please carry on, I'll just keep typing Raoul Plommer: (12:21) I've been wotking for the pirate party, which is an international political movement Dic Leaning: (12:22) Ok forgot to mention that as from this saturday am in Dubai at our RIPE conference for the whole week, which for me my team is full on everyday,, so i just want to manage expectations of how much i can actually do in th enext coming days Raoul Plommer: (12:24) fighting for freedom of speech, open government and equality. They're quite well connected and our only MEP Julia Reda has done a terrific job Dic Leaning: (12:27) YES YES Rod - all crime has a presence on the internet Dic Leaning: (12:27) in someway Raoul Plommer: (12:28) pirates also fight against repressive copyrights and some of the law enforcement measures are used on people who are not dangerous but merely share culture Ayden Férdeline: (12:34) Article 29 WP released guidance yesterday on automated decison making re: GDPR interpretation. This could impact your automation, especially where the domain names are held by natural persons. Dic Leaning: (12:35) Rod - can you mention DGA? Dic Leaning: (12:35) are they in the whois Dic Leaning: (12:36) sorry ;-) Dic Leaning: (12:41) most seriuos cyber crime use DGA Dic Leaning: (12:41) yes Rod, thanks Dic Leaning: (12:52) the other important bit which is sometimes is over look is that a potential customer can look up th ewhois and make a inofrmed decison if they want to hand there money over to them Dic Leaning: (12:53) if they cant check who domin is registered to it will push the end user to the well knowns ones - to amazon and ebay for example Ayden Férdeline: (12:56) new hand please Raoul Plommer: (13:00) Are these notes sent to us? Dic Leaning: (13:01) remind me - is there a new mailing list on this stream? Ayden Férdeline: (13:01) thanks all Dic Leaning: (13:01) ok, thanks Dic Leaning: (13:02) bye Rod Rasmussen: (13:02) Thanks!