Greg,

I quoted the figure of 5% because it was from the most recent year of data. It was also consistent with the other figure that I cited of 66% - which is of global Internet users, also in 2016. I did not cherry pick numbers. I simply used the most recent, global data.

As for your interpretation of the data set, that this translates into millions of individuals being aware of WHOIS, that might be the case or it might not be. We need to consider the margin of error, the fact that some people will answer in the affirmative to any question in a poll, and a range of other variables. There is no doubt that some people are using WHOIS and are aware it is out there. All that is debatable is the volume of them.

Regards,

Ayden

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At 5%, that translates into millions of consumers around the world using WHOIS info.  According to estimates, there are over a billion online shoppers in the world.  So how many have used WHOIS?  50 million? 

 

That is bigger than the populations of many medium-sized countries.  (Canada only has 35 million.)  Probably it’s more than have heard of ICANN, or of the Internet Society, etc.!  We don’t really know, but it would seem to be a lot.  It may be odd to say that “general awareness of the WHOIS service is low” if the absolute number is in the millions.

 

BTW, Aiden, 5% is the lowest number to cite.  The research study says it was 5% in 2016, but 8% in 2015.  Among respondents in North American and Europe it was much higher -- 14% in 2015, and 11% in 2016. (page 126)  

 

All best,

--Greg

 

 


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Research conducted by Nielsen for ICANN earlier this year found that 66% of consumers had never tried to identify the creator of a website before. Of those who had, even once, tried to identify the creator of a website, only 5% claimed to have performed a WHOIS search even once. Source: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/reviews/cct/phase2-data-tables-region-08jun16-en.pdf

 

I appreciate that you were discussing the awareness of WHOIS among domain name registrants, and not ordinary Internet users, however I would like to introduce this data because it would indicate that general awareness of the WHOIS service is low (and I am not aware of any more relevant studies which have been conducted on the matter of WHOIS).

 

Best wishes,

 

Ayden

 

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Agree with SusanK.  I know many registrants (individuals, corporations, etc) who are quite versed in Whois and the purpose of it.  

 

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Sara Bockey <sbockey@godaddy.com> wrote:

Fair and good points Steve and Volker. Just hoping the problem statement will make our jobs easier, not harder, but perhaps that’s not possible.

 

Sara

 

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Turning this over to the GAC is indeed not conductive to efficient and goal-oriented problem solving, yet ICANN needs to also be careful not to intrude in what the GAC may view as the job of governments, i.e. regulating the powers of law enforcement and cross border jurisdiction.

 

Am 23.08.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Metalitz, Steven:

 

Sara’s redline is more constrained but does it omit our main job, which is to resolve/manage/accommodate/mitigate the divergent and sometimes contradictory interests in RDS which the earlier draft rather succinctly identified?   (I realize all those verbs are different, and not sure which is the best.)

 

If the “core problem” is really to “account for rules, regulations and laws” then should the job be turned over to the GAC which after all represents the sources and authoritative interpreters of those “rules, regulations and laws”?   I doubt that would be a satisfactory way to proceed. 

 

 

 


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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:42:17PM +0000, Sara Bockey wrote:

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> The problem statement should be explicit and to the point, without extraneous wording or viewpoints. Accordingly, my proposed revisions are attached.

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I think this is vastly better because it is more constrained.

 

A

 

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