I dont think that it can totally change based on the strong milestones that we have achieved over period of time.Critical reviews have been made and discussions have come to consensus.With the remarks from Steve, Bottom up approach work and we can not dispute the fact that the twist has come from the rise of GDPR.The Deliberations have been working and we cannot trash the recommendation in the discussion. I still stand for compliance and building a benchmark regulation that meets all standards. It will take time to achieve global uniformity but what I know is that we shall get there.We have been consistent with the discussions apart from some minor issues like the Status Quo. Putting that aside, I will pose the question what must change, if we are derive consensus with basis on GDPR, the timeline is critical which we all know. In the System Requirements, all these issues, MUST and WILL be addressed.ᐧ_______________________________________________On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:35 PM, Chuck <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:John,
You said ‘no’ but your qualification says it needs to change, albeit in what you think is a minor change.
Do you believe that changing the RDS to accommodate the GDPR is Europe is a minor tweak? If so, please tell me what that minor tweak is.
Chuck
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Using the GDPR as a basis for RDS Policy is backwards
Yes, I respectfully disagree with Sara's statement, Chuck. (With a small qualification.) I don't think you have consensus around that point, in my view. The qualification I'd make is: where there are specific regulatory reasons to either require or permit a change to existing Whois/RDS policy, provided that it's done in the most conservative way possible, I think that's reasonable to discuss. (The obvious example here is the GDPR.) Beyond that, I believe that one of the best alternatives that's (implicitly) presented so far is no change, as many (all?) of the proposed changes I've heard so far would be worse than the status quo.
So do I believe it "must" change? No, aside from a very limited tweak due to some specific regulatory issues. Do I believe it could be improved, and that improvements are worth discussing? Yes. But the answer to your question is: Yes, there is someone on this working group who respectfully disagrees with Sara's statement.
John Horton
President and CEO, LegitScript
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Chuck <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is there anyone in this WG who disagrees with Sara’s statement that ‘RDS must change’, understanding that we still have large differences of opinion regarding how to change it?
Chuck
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Using the GDPR as a basis for RDS Policy is backwards
I agree with Steve and look forward to additional feedback from him.
RDS must change. Discussions to the contrary are a waste of time.
Sara
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Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Using the GDPR as a basis for RDS Policy is backwards
o necessary
o feasible
o will lead to a much cleaner model
o will make it relatively straightforward to satisfy the GDPR and all similar regulations around the world.
There are also some issues such as the relationship of name server operators that also need to be addressed.
There is obviously much more that needs to be said. I will contribute as much and as quickly as I can.
Steve
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