@EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All, Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin. First, on “specific purposes”: I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants, · registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data. Second, on the notion of accuracy: Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles<https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report<https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...>). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.” I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible. Best Regards Greg Mounier Europol – EC3 From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others. Chuck From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mounier, Grégory Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM To: 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin. First, on “specific purposes”: I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants, · registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data. Second, on the notion of accuracy: Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles<https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report<https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...>). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.” I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible. Best Regards Greg Mounier Europol – EC3 From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************
Dear All, I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate. Cheers Dick Richard Leaning External Relations RIPE NCC
On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck <> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mounier, Grégory Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM To: 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
First, on “specific purposes”: I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants, · registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data.
Second, on the notion of accuracy: Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...>). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier Europol – EC3
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>
Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>.
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+1 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net> wrote:
Dear All,
I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
Cheers
Dick
Richard Leaning External Relations RIPE NCC
On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck
*From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg- bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mounier, Grégory *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM *To:* 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin. *First, on “specific purposes”: * I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants,
· registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data. *Second, on the notion of accuracy:* Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “*should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy*” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...> ). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier Europol – EC3
*From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds- pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Marika Konings *Sent:* 28 September 2016 19:12 *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
*Marika Konings* Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org
*Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO* *Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers>.*
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+1 From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Stumme Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 10:09 AM To: Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose +1 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net<mailto:rleaning@ripe.net>> wrote: Dear All, I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate. Cheers Dick Richard Leaning External Relations RIPE NCC On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> wrote: Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others. Chuck From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mounier, Grégory Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM To: 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin. First, on “specific purposes”: I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants, · registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data. Second, on the notion of accuracy: Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles<https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report<https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...>). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.” I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible. Best Regards Greg Mounier Europol – EC3 From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. ******************* _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg -- Terri Stumme
All, Support Gregory's points here - whatever data is maintained in any potential new RDS - it's important that this data be accurate. Kind regards, Nick *Nick Shorey BA(Hons) MSc.* Senior Policy Advisor | Global Internet Governance Department for Culture, Media & Sport HM Government | United Kingdom Email: nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk Tel: +44 (0)7710 025 626 Skype: nick.shorey Twitter: @nickshorey LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin On 3 October 2016 at 22:39, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler@riaa.com> wrote:
+1
*From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg- bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Terri Stumme *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 10:09 AM *To:* Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
+1
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net> wrote:
Dear All,
I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
Cheers
Dick
Richard Leaning
External Relations
RIPE NCC
On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck
*From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg- bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mounier, Grégory *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM *To:* 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
*First, on “specific purposes”: *
I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for:
· facilitating contact with registrants,
· registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data.
*Second, on the notion of accuracy:*
Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “*should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy*” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...> ). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier
Europol – EC3
*From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds- pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Marika Konings *Sent:* 28 September 2016 19:12 *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
*Marika Konings*
Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Email: marika.konings@icann.org
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As to accuracy, there is a fine line between absolute accuracy and reasonable efforts ensuring accuracy that must be navigated. If we as a group come down with a decision that the data must be 100% accurate, all the time, forever, then we can stop right there since such a goal can only be achieved in cloud coocoo land. Reasonable accuracy can probably be achieved, but we should stay away from absolutes as they will become a cost trap and implementation nightmare. So when everyone is demanding accuracy, we should first define what that actually is supposed to mean for the purposes of this group and the policy we are trying to create. So what does "accurate" mean? VG Am 04.10.2016 um 10:51 schrieb Nick Shorey:
All,
Support Gregory's points here - whatever data is maintained in any potential new RDS - it's important that this data be accurate.
Kind regards,
Nick
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On 3 October 2016 at 22:39, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler@riaa.com <mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com>> wrote:
+1
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+1
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net <mailto:rleaning@ripe.net>> wrote:
Dear All,
I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
Cheers
Dick
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On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com <mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck
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Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose.I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
_First, on “specific purposes”:_
Ibelieve that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4)as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for:
·facilitating contact with registrants,
·registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data.
_Second, on the notion of accuracy:_
Although Isupport the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, Ishare Greg’s views thatthe notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective.As youknow, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “/should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy/” (per its2007 GAC WHOIS Principles <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.html>).I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose:“A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I amalso supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin asIsee value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier
Europol – EC3
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Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
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On 4 Oct 2016, at 11:26, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
As to accuracy, there is a fine line between absolute accuracy and reasonable efforts ensuring accuracy that must be navigated.
If we as a group come down with a decision that the data must be 100% accurate, all the time, forever, then we can stop right there since such a goal can only be achieved in cloud coocoo land. Reasonable accuracy can probably be achieved, but we should stay away from absolutes as they will become a cost trap and implementation nightmare. So when everyone is demanding accuracy, we should first define what that actually is supposed to mean for the purposes of this group and the policy we are trying to create.
So what does "accurate" mean?
VG
Am 04.10.2016 um 10:51 schrieb Nick Shorey:
All,
Support Gregory's points here - whatever data is maintained in any potential new RDS - it's important that this data be accurate.
Kind regards,
Nick
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On 3 October 2016 at 22:39, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler@riaa.com> wrote: +1
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+1
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net> wrote:
Dear All,
I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
Cheers
Dick
Richard Leaning
External Relations
RIPE NCC
On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck
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Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
First, on “specific purposes”:
I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for:
· facilitating contact with registrants,
· registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data.
Second, on the notion of accuracy:
Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier
Europol – EC3
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
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+1 The data has to be as accurate as is practical, for the original purpose. This is once reason why defining the original purpose is necessary and it is important to be careful. Stephanie Perrin On 2016-10-04 05:26, Volker Greimann wrote:
As to accuracy, there is a fine line between absolute accuracy and reasonable efforts ensuring accuracy that must be navigated.
If we as a group come down with a decision that the data must be 100% accurate, all the time, forever, then we can stop right there since such a goal can only be achieved in cloud coocoo land.
Reasonable accuracy can probably be achieved, but we should stay away from absolutes as they will become a cost trap and implementation nightmare.
So when everyone is demanding accuracy, we should first define what that actually is supposed to mean for the purposes of this group and the policy we are trying to create.
So what does "accurate" mean?
VG
Am 04.10.2016 um 10:51 schrieb Nick Shorey:
All,
Support Gregory's points here - whatever data is maintained in any potential new RDS - it's important that this data be accurate.
Kind regards,
Nick
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On 3 October 2016 at 22:39, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler@riaa.com <mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com>> wrote:
+1
*From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Terri Stumme *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 10:09 AM *To:* Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net <mailto:rleaning@ripe.net>> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org>> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
+1
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning <rleaning@ripe.net <mailto:rleaning@ripe.net>> wrote:
Dear All,
I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
Cheers
Dick
Richard Leaning
External Relations
RIPE NCC
On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com <mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> wrote:
Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
Chuck
*From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>]*On Behalf Of*Mounier, Grégory *Sent:*Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM *To:*'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@icann.org <mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject:*[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose.I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
_First, on “specific purposes”:_
Ibelieve that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4)as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for:
·facilitating contact with registrants,
·registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data.
_Second, on the notion of accuracy:_
Although Isupport the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, Ishare Greg’s views thatthe notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective.As youknow, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “/should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy/” (per its2007 GAC WHOIS Principles <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.html>).I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose:“A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.”
I amalso supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin asIsee value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
Best Regards
Greg Mounier
Europol – EC3
*From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>]*On Behalf Of*Marika Konings *Sent:*28 September 2016 19:12 *To:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> *Subject:*[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose
Dear All,
Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated.
Best regards,
Marika
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I would like to voice support for these proposals from Greg on the statement of purpose, as well as for the other working group member's suggestions he highlighted below. Best, Tjabbe Tjabbe Bos Policy Officer [cid:image001.gif@01CE2952.DC5024E0] European Commission DG Migration and Home Affairs Unit D2 – Fight against organised crime 1049 Brussels, Belgium Tel. +32 229 87113 What we do: http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/organized-crime-and... From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mounier, Grégory Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 11:45 AM To: 'Marika Konings'; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of this statement of purpose. I wanted to briefly share some comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose and express support to some of the suggestions put forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin. First, on “specific purposes”: I believe that the specific purposes currently listed under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to 1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4) as suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other purposes of an RDS, as is the case for: · facilitating contact with registrants, · registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling release of accurate gTLD registration data. Second, on the notion of accuracy: Although I support the simplification to the language of specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered 3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, I share Greg’s views that the notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an integral part of the purpose considering the importance of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a public policy perspective. As you know, the GAC has consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “should provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name registrations and registrants subject to national safeguards for individuals’ privacy” (per its 2007 GAC WHOIS Principles<https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>, which it referred to in its 2015 comments on the RDS PDP Preliminary Issue Report<https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.htm...>). I therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth purpose: “A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide information that is accurate.” I am also supportive of the simplification to the goals and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin as I see value in keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible. Best Regards Greg Mounier Europol – EC3 From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings Sent: 28 September 2016 19:12 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose Dear All, Please find attached for your review the updated statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all encouraged to review this version, especially the section ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration Directory Services’, and share your input with the mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to provide updated language for two specific parts of the document which have been flagged accordingly, so please hold your comments on those parts until the proposed language has been circulated. Best regards, Marika Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************
participants (10)
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benny＠nordreg.se -
Gomes, Chuck -
Mounier, Grégory -
Nick Shorey -
Richard Leaning -
Stephanie Perrin -
Terri Stumme -
Tjabbe.BOS＠ec.europa.eu -
Victoria Sheckler -
Volker Greimann