Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy
Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data
I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule. J. Scott Evans 408.536.5336 (tel) 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544 Director, Trademarks 408.709.6162 (cell) San Jose, CA, 95110, USA Adobe. Make It an Experience. jsevans@adobe.com www.adobe.com On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of migraham@expedia.com> wrote: Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.or... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.or...
J. Scott, Staff can confirm that the rotation was to accommodate those members for whom the Friday time did not work (such as those in Europe), but who could attend at the Thursday rotating time. Kind regards, Julie On 1/8/18, 3:56 PM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of J. Scott Evans via Gnso-rpm-data" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> wrote: I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule. J. Scott Evans 408.536.5336 (tel) 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544 Director, Trademarks 408.709.6162 (cell) San Jose, CA, 95110, USA Adobe. Make It an Experience. jsevans@adobe.com www.adobe.com On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of migraham@expedia.com> wrote: Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data
Hi, That time is showing at 11PM Thursday evening CET vs. 5 pm Friday CET. I am only on CET one more week then back to EDT. Either time is not great but I can swing it. It would depend on Susan Payne and I am not sure who else who regularly dials in is in this time zone. Susan is 1 hour behind me. Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy International Trademark Association (INTA) +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 9:59 PM To: J. Scott Evans <jsevans@adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham@expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts J. Scott, Staff can confirm that the rotation was to accommodate those members for whom the Friday time did not work (such as those in Europe), but who could attend at the Thursday rotating time. Kind regards, Julie On 1/8/18, 3:56 PM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of J. Scott Evans via Gnso-rpm-data" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of gnso-rpm-data@icann.org><mailto:gnso-rpm-data@icann.org%3e> wrote: I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule. J. Scott Evans 408.536.5336 (tel) 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544 Director, Trademarks 408.709.6162 (cell) San Jose, CA, 95110, USA Adobe. Make It an Experience. jsevans@adobe.com<mailto:jsevans@adobe.com> www.adobe.com<http://www.adobe.com> On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of migraham@expedia.com><mailto:migraham@expedia.com%3e> wrote: Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data ________________________________
Speaking as someone in Europe I would say this rotation (10 - 11pm at night) is hardly for my benefit and is even worse for Lori. I have made myself available for a call this Thursday and so I'm not particularly in favour of cancelling it at this point, but I would like the rotation reviewed as a general matter: - What we discussed was finding a replacement to the 7pm Friday slot. Instead, that slot is being retained and the far more reasonable (if you are European) slot earlier on a Friday is the one that is being replaced. I strongly object to that. - if we're largely given timeslots to vote on which are late at night in Europe it's no big surprise if they come out the winner. After this week, which is already arranged, I would like the poll done again, in a manner which actually recognises that not everyone is based in the US. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd 28-30 Little Russell Street London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom E: susan.payne@valideus.com D: +44 20 7421 8255 T: +44 20 7421 8299 M: +44 7971 661175 -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 08 January 2018 20:59 To: J. Scott Evans <jsevans@adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham@expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts J. Scott, Staff can confirm that the rotation was to accommodate those members for whom the Friday time did not work (such as those in Europe), but who could attend at the Thursday rotating time. Kind regards, Julie On 1/8/18, 3:56 PM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of J. Scott Evans via Gnso-rpm-data" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> wrote: I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule. J. Scott Evans 408.536.5336 (tel) 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544 Director, Trademarks 408.709.6162 (cell) San Jose, CA, 95110, USA Adobe. Make It an Experience. jsevans@adobe.com www.adobe.com On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of migraham@expedia.com> wrote: Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data
I support Susan. I had thought we'd rotate between early Friday and less early Friday (from a Pacific time perspective), so I was also surprised that we ended up with a late Thursday time. Both are good for eastern. One better for Europe. The only people who "suffer" are in Pacific time and I arrive for work at 7:30 am so no problem for me. I could be here at 7 if need be. I have a standing conflict at 10 am for 1/2 hour, that's it. I vote we accommodate Europe. Kristine -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Susan Payne Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:11 PM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>; J. Scott Evans <jsevans@adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham@expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Speaking as someone in Europe I would say this rotation (10 - 11pm at night) is hardly for my benefit and is even worse for Lori. I have made myself available for a call this Thursday and so I'm not particularly in favour of cancelling it at this point, but I would like the rotation reviewed as a general matter: - What we discussed was finding a replacement to the 7pm Friday slot. Instead, that slot is being retained and the far more reasonable (if you are European) slot earlier on a Friday is the one that is being replaced. I strongly object to that. - if we're largely given timeslots to vote on which are late at night in Europe it's no big surprise if they come out the winner. After this week, which is already arranged, I would like the poll done again, in a manner which actually recognises that not everyone is based in the US. thanks Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd 28-30 Little Russell Street London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom E: susan.payne@valideus.com D: +44 20 7421 8255 T: +44 20 7421 8299 M: +44 7971 661175 -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: 08 January 2018 20:59 To: J. Scott Evans <jsevans@adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham@expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts J. Scott, Staff can confirm that the rotation was to accommodate those members for whom the Friday time did not work (such as those in Europe), but who could attend at the Thursday rotating time. Kind regards, Julie On 1/8/18, 3:56 PM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of J. Scott Evans via Gnso-rpm-data" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of gnso-rpm-data@icann.org> wrote: I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule. J. Scott Evans 408.536.5336 (tel) 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544 Director, Trademarks 408.709.6162 (cell) San Jose, CA, 95110, USA Adobe. Make It an Experience. jsevans@adobe.com www.adobe.com On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org on behalf of migraham@expedia.com> wrote: Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members. Would members of the group please advise your preferences. Michael R. -----Original Message----- From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM To: gnso-rpm-data@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts Hi All, The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time). Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protecti... _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-data mailing list Gnso-rpm-data@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-data
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Dorrain, Kristine -
J. Scott Evans -
Julie Hedlund -
Kathy Kleiman -
Lori Schulman -
Michael Graham (ELCA) -
Susan Payne