Dear All,
Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 12 May 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Ow3fAw
MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-12may17-en.mp3
Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p8nxmqhvv2d/
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
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Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri
Adobe Connect chat transcript for 12 May 2017:
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations call on Friday, 12 May 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minute duration
Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_Ow3fAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=gFKBN0gp-Q4UBs0Dnm7t1R_wqO-9LWMoBqLvhoxR0NM&s=dLAYHUwTsuuU4so8QosJR7KDGp11vyj0Np-sQuZmpBA&e=
Phil Marano::)
Phil Marano:+1
Phil Marano:Folks still traveling after the GDD Summit possibly.
Susan Payne:hi
Susan Payne:I'm afraid I won't make next 2 week's calls either due to INTA and travels
Amr Elsadr:You bet, Lori. Good luck.
Susan Payne:But we could do over list
Susan Payne:what are we due to do?
Philip Corwin:Good day all
Philip Corwin:We have the magnificent 7 ;-)
Terri Agnew:@Mary, we heard you for a moment but no longer
Susan Payne:same examples relevant to 2 were captures here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_RARPMRIAGPWG_Additional-2BDocuments-2Band-2BMaterials-2Bon-2Bthe-2BTM-2DPDDRP-3Fpreview-3D_61606586_62399692_Collated-2520Examples-2520of-2520Perceived-2520Registry-2520Conduct-2520within-2520TM-2DPDDRP-2520scope-2520-2D-252017-2520Oct-25202016.pdf&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=gFKBN0gp-Q4UBs0Dnm7t1R_wqO-9LWMoBqLvhoxR0NM&s=IkgXRSEk1R32wUwSGxoCVnvwXfRCYJtRbAOUgd-b870&e=
Mary Wong:Sorry my audio isn't working
Kathy:Hi All, Apologies for joining late.
Mary Wong:@Susan, wasn't Q11 put into the TMCH list?
Mary Wong:So the question is whether Q11 is even needed here (as several Sub Team members have noted in past discusions)
Mary Wong:Maybe park this for now and suggest that the WG look at all parked questions when they are done with the other questions?
Kathy:What question are we on?
Mary Wong:Q16, for instance, was also noted as being something that's being discusssed as part of the broader TMCH deliberations. This could conceivably be parked and returned to.
Kathy:Agree with Kristine
Amr Elsadr:@Kathy: Questions 13 and 22, or updated questions 11 and 12.
Susan Payne:exactly Lori
Kathy:yes
Mary Wong:SUGGESTION - make a notation where the queston is being covered in the general or TMCH discussion, and consider refining the question to make it specific to Sunrise.
Mary Wong:Then the WG can decide whether to take it up as part of a Sunrise review, defer it till the end of Sunrise review, or park it until general TMCH/other relevant discussions have concluded.
Susan Payne:and of course legally-similar goods can be across different classes
Lori Schulman:yes, Susan, thank you.
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Agree, Mary.
Philip Corwin:To be clear, I was not proposing a particular implementation approach. I was trying to find out if we all have a common understanding of what would be required to implement the contemplated restriction.
Kathy:@Phil: I think you have one good implementation path.
Kathy:But it may be easier...
Susan Payne:@ Kathy Yes, it is in scope - although just because we have been asked to deal with it it does not pre-suppose we will say "yes" to the Q :)
Kathy:yes
Susan Payne:yes
Philip Corwin:To further clarify, what would be the method of limiting sunsrise registrations to a mark's goods and services? And would the generation of claims noticesbe similarly restricted?
Philip Corwin:what is question?
Kathy:I don't understand the "parking"
Kathy:Meaning it becomes part of our WG questions for this area?
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Phil, part one of what you asked belongs here. Part 2 is on the claims list of Qs
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Parking in my mind simply means, we might have already answered it by the time we get here (or have suffienctly changed things by the time we get there).
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:It's my understanding that neither sub team is doing substantive work...right? The entire WG will answer these Qs. did I miss something?
Lori Schulman:Kristine that is my understanding
Susan Payne:25
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:All excellent questions, Phil
Amr Elsadr:@Kristine: That is my understanding as well. Perhaps the two Sub Teams can coordinate their proposals on these questions, as I believe Phil has suggested?
Susan Payne:yep all good points Phil
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Including the reluctance of most Registry Operators to "restrict" their TLDss
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:.HORSE may not want to "categorize" their TLD
Susan Payne:This obviously is an interesting debate but can we hold it over to when we are supposed to talk about it
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks Amr, I agree.
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1Susan
Susan Payne:Yes Lori, I do think this is relevant to prioritisation
Mary Wong:Is there a particular wording that this group can agree to, mindful that the general question will be noted as also being covered in the TMCH discussion?
Susan Payne:yes
Kathy:yes
Lori Schulman:I support Kristine's suggestion
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes Phil, I think the WG will need to answer those Qs.
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:In its entirety. :)
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:As in, the WG, in its entirety. Not our little puddle of 9 people. :)
Philip Corwin:We are not a puddle. We are a lake on a diet ;-)
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:LMAO
Kathy::-)
Philip Corwin:When will our next call be, or are we wrapped ip? I am unable to make the next two Fridays due to INTA Annual in Barcelona.
Lori Schulman:Our next call will be in 3 weeks as I am tied up too
Amr Elsadr:Before we end the call, I wanted to note that Lori won't be available for calls over the next two weeks. Can we confirm that we will still hold calls?
Lori Schulman:I think that many will be at INTA
Lori Schulman:but i am happy to cede the chair if others want dial in
Kathy:Should we skip next week?
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Perhaps if we do good work this week suggesting data sources via email, we can do the work online?
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'd hate to lose momentum
Amr Elsadr:@Kristine: I think that's doable.
Susan Payne:sounds good. apologies, I need to jump off for another call
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:What Phil did was a good example a model
Kathy:How many people would be on the call next week?
Philip Corwin:Must leave call
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'll here, but if you look at the list on today's call, I might be it.
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks.
Kathy:Bye All
Kathy:Safe travels!
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks Lori, great job
Lori Schulman:thank you
Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.