Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 28 April 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/HNnRAw MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-28apr17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p1l2io6pio2/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Adobe Connect chat transcript for 28 April 2017: Julie Bisland:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 28 April 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Julie Bisland:Agenda Wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_H... Terri Agnew:We would like to introduce Julie Bisland as GNSO SO/AC Support coordinator. Maxim Alzoba:Hello All Maxim Alzoba:I think we might see more people in 5 min Lori Schulman:Hi, Lori Schulman:Adobe took 7 mins to load today J. Scott Evans:yes J. Scott Evans:Yes Terri Agnew:Yes we can Lori J. Scott Evans:Can you hear us? Philip Corwin:Hello all Jeff Neuman:I hear Kathy J. Scott Evans:I hear kathy too Lori Schulman:i only hear bits of Kathy Maxim Alzoba:I heard Kathy susan payne:Kathy was very clear Matt Mlsna:i could hear Kathy Griffin Barnett:heard Kathy just fine before Terri Agnew:@Lori, op is dialing you Mary Wong:I can hear J Scott clearly and Kathy as well Jeff Neuman:what number is it? Maxim Alzoba:which # do we discuss? Maxim Alzoba:I do not hear Lory now Lori Schulman:Now, I can't hear anything. Philip Corwin:i'm getting radio silence Jeff Neuman:Can Mary take the reigns for a few minutes? Mary Wong:I think the SMD file question is #5 Mary Wong:#Jeff, that was the original question - I think Kathy's suggestion is in the last column Mary Wong:Kathy's rephrased question: "What does the TM Owner hold when it has an SMD file? How does it use it use an SMD file in the Sunrise Period? If a registration in the TMCH database is not longer valid, will the TM Owner's SMD file continue to work?" Maxim Alzoba:TMCH confirms records and is not aware of the legal status of the TM in the real time Mary Wong:@Maxim, yes. Maxim Alzoba:and after the registration ... it is not important , domain is still registered (if the TLD does not have a policy which demands active TM) Jeff Neuman:what was the charter question J. Scott Evans:Kathy. Don't take this personally. J. Scott Evans:Asked and answered by Deloitte J. Scott Evans:No it cannot J. Scott Evans:Let's quite wasting time J. Scott Evans:Do we have any proof that there has been abuse or a problem? Mary Wong:Also , every time a trademark record is renewed or updated based on new information, a new SMD file isgenerated. You can't use the old SMD file once you get your new SMD file as well. susan payne:Revocation:Revocation is the process executed by the Trademark Validator, Deloitte, to invalidate an SMD.Revocation may be triggered, for example, when an SMD has been compromised or when a record isremoved from the Trademark Clearinghouse. Once an SMD has been revoked, the SMD cannot be usedanymore.RenewalEvery time a trademark record is renewed or updated based on new information, a new SMD file isgenerated. The validity period of the new SMD file starts at the moment of trademark record renewaland ends at the new expiration date of the trademark record. After the trademark holder downloads thenew SMD file for the first time, the previous SMD file is revoked. Terri Agnew:@Mary, you are correct, one document at at a time Jeff Neuman:I need to drop. Thanks. Maxim Alzoba:I heard Lory susan payne:yes J. Scott Evans:agree J. Scott Evans:45 minutes J. Scott Evans:no. I think it should only take one call. 90 minutes Maxim Alzoba:when do we paln next one? could we have doodle poll? Mary Wong:@Maxim, do you mean for this Sub Team? Maxim Alzoba:yes Maxim Alzoba:the week after the next one is GDD summit Maxim Alzoba:may 10th is a bad idea , middle of the summit susan payne:thanks, that's useful Lori J. Scott Evans:we aren't have a call may 10th Maxim Alzoba:ok J. Scott Evans:no susan payne:I do J. Scott Evans:discussions are organc Maxim Alzoba:I will have to drop by the end of this hour J. Scott Evans:I would not see all of this taking place on one call J. Scott Evans:work would e taken offline and then brought back, but a discussion of whether we need to take action should not be endless Philip Corwin:Any discussion of mechanisms to challenge registry pricing practices are likely to be lengthy and possibly contentious, IMHO. Maxim Alzoba:+1 Maxim Alzoba:also ICANN regulating not only policies but prices ... does it look safe from market regulators perspective? Griffin Barnett:I'm a little confused by why we are trying to project/estimate how long discussion on each question will take? I thought our task right now is to review these Sunrise questions, agree as to whether they need any clarification or revision, potentially identify questions where we need to collect additional factual data and design means of acquiring such data J. Scott Evans:Griffin. The hope is to give the whole group an idea of how our discussions will map to the overall workplan prepared by staff Griffin Barnett:Ok thanks for the clarification on that Mary Wong:And once both Sub Teams can provide some recommendations on timing, staff will try to integrate them into an updated Work Plan. Kathy:do we have 2 down for data gathering? Kathy:Sorry if I missed it, but Kristine's rephrasing would require it... Mary Wong:Kristine Dorrain has suggested a rephrasing for 3A J. Scott Evans:I have to drop now. Good luck. Lori, you all are doing a great job organizing things. Thanks to you all. I'd like more subteam members to speak up and provide their thoughts though. Lori Schulman:My call just dropped Terri Agnew:calling lori Lori Schulman:I can hear you through the computer Lori Schulman:Thank you Mary. Lori Schulman:For asking about KD rephrasing Lori Schulman:I think we would have to ask registries susan payne:I think we said 1 call for this Lori Schulman:I said, 1 call Maxim Alzoba:Registires will have no RySG meetings till after the GDD summit susan payne:Maxim as a RO would you be willing to provide your reserved names list? I would imagine not Maxim Alzoba:we are prohibited from publishing profanity language Maxim Alzoba:and some of those list consist of that susan payne:yes Maxim Alzoba:basically that is the reason thos lists limited ro registrars Maxim Alzoba:bye all Maxim Alzoba:have to drop Roger Carney:+1 Susan, sounds easy to find Mary Wong:@Susan, yes Mary Wong:We will send around the page you mentioned Kathy:Before we end the call, let me thank Lori for dealing so well with a call that had so many audio gremlins. Kathy::-) susan payne:great, thanks Lori Mary Wong:Will do, Lori Griffin Barnett:thanks all, jumping to another call Mary Wong:Thanks Lori and everyone! Kathy:By All Philip Corwin:Have agood weekend, all