Dear All, Please find the attendance, MP3 recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) TMCH Sub Team call held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-tmch-05aug16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-tmch-05aug16-en.mp3> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the Sub Team wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/UwSbAw Attendees RPM TMCH Sub Team: Grace Mutung’u Khouloud Dawahi Kathy Kleiman Kristine Dorrain Kurt Pritz On audio only: Jeff Neuman Apologies: Philip Corwin Susan Payne ICANN staff: Mary Wong Antonietta Mangiacotti David Tait Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-tmch/ Main RPM Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/rhiOAw Sub Team Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/UQCsAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 05 August 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) TMCH Sub team Meeting WG held on Friday, 05 August 2016 at 15:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Grace Mutung'u:Hi everyone Grace Mutung'u:I'm sorry I'm having problems with my mic Mary Wong:The document that is on the screen is the updated scoping document Kurt is mentioning Kathy:Hi Grace, please feel free to type... Kathy:or would you like a local number to dial in on? Kristine:Sorry I'm late, dialing in now. Grace Mutung'u:thanks Kathy. I don't think I can dial in from Nairobi Kurt Pritz:Can we dial out to Grace? Grace Mutung'u:Its okay, I will type Kathy:Tx Mary! Kathy:Publicly available information - list/links back to the WG - as a first step. Great! Grace Mutung'u:what about users of TMCH? They may have practical experiences on what they could /could not find at TMCHs Kathy:+1 Grace Mary Wong:@Kurt, that is something David and I are working with our GDD colleagues to sift through Kristine:I'm getting a horrible background noice like chirping khouloud Dawahi: we should go no for the public information available on the internet and try to outreach other mostly the registrars khouloud Dawahi:me too kristine Mary Wong:@Kathy, @Khouloud, should this Sub Team reach out to registrars, registries and users at this stage? Kathy: NO! khouloud Dawahi: I think that meeting the trademark house should be done by the WG call not the sub team group as it s role is to collecte available public information .Is nt that the essential role of the sub team ?@Mary yes we should as i said in the chat previously .Yes for the registrars and registries at this stage not the trademark house .I dont know if you agree with me khouloud Dawahi:@Kathy No about what I didnt understand ?? khouloud Dawahi:@kathy yes that s what i said it s up to the WG group call to contact the trademark house not the sub team Kathy:+Khouloud - my emphatic "no" was to the idea of meeting privately with the TMCH through the WG. Kathy:+1 Khouloud I would agree that the whole WG needs to meet with TMCH Kathy:@Kurt: do you think there is "publicly-available information" from registries and registrars on the sunrise and TM? Kathy:TM claims? Kathy:@Grace: what type of materials would you like to gather from users? What type of questions? khouloud Dawahi:thanks dear kathy yes i fear that we may go astray if we contact the TMH as our essential role is to gather data not to assess them .It is up to the WG to assess them but i think we should contact registries and registrars @kathy Grace Mutung'u:@ Kathy, their view on the CH procedures....gaps... Kathy:@Mary: to Notes: and also what might be privately available reports to ICANN that could be "redacted" or otherwise shared in some form or other Kristine:Kurt, I like that. Kristine:We should really start with our question list before dragging anyone else in Kristine:I understand that point, Kathy Kathy:@Mary: where does our list of publicly-available documents stand? Kathy:@Mary: is there a Q&A on Analysis Group? Kristine:I think looking at the report will be very helpful in determing what we still need to look for. khouloud Dawahi:not at all kathy khouloud Dawahi:yes khouloud Dawahi:kathy Grace Mutung'u:yes, certainly khouloud Dawahi:@kurt hhhhhhhhh Kathy: Tx Khouloud and Grace! khouloud Dawahi:you re most welcome kathy Mary Wong:@Kurt, @Kristine - we will be happy to do that, and guidance from the Sub TEam would be great so we're not starting from zero Kristine:Exactly, Mary. We need to provide guidance and that is a good use of this subteam's time. khouloud Dawahi: I think that google searchs can be helpful as well Kristine:khouloud, what specific searches do you recommend? Kristine:Agree with document lists and summary, NOT analysis. khouloud Dawahi:i think we should look for registrars inputs , i found a google input doc related to the TMH so , it could be helpful actually @kristine Mary Wong:@Khouloud please send it to the list. As noted earlier, we are not reaching out to registrars at this point. khouloud Dawahi:@Mary ok i will send it to the sub team or should i send it to the sub team and WG as well ??, Mary Wong:Just the sub team for now, I think, as we are compiling the list Kathy:In notes: Compare TMCH's Monthly report against publicly available data to see if it is comprehensive. khouloud Dawahi:@mary ok i will send the report i found after the call Kristine:Thanks, Khouloud. I agree we should archive that for when we get there. Kurt Pritz:I'd like to see the report Khouloud found also. Kristine:Sorry, time is up so i'll put my hand down. I propose we spend the week on the list generating some questions and we can use next week to review the question list. Kristine:yes Kristine:Will do. Kurt Pritz:Agenda item 2: the sub-team can provide edits to the Analysis Q&A doc so it can be included in what we present to the RPM WG khouloud Dawahi:@kristine welcome @kurt yes will send it to the group i hope it would be helpful as it provided the opinion of a registrar .I didnt send it back then because it was to early . Kristine:Thanks to staff! Mary Wong:@Kurt, got it, thanks Michelle DeSmyter:Sub team wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/UQCsAw khouloud Dawahi:Thank you all David Tait:Thank you all Grace Mutung'u:thnaks all khouloud Dawahi:bye