Re: [Gnso-rpm-tmch] Agenda for upcoming RPMs sub team
Dear All Apologies for any confusion but just to confirm that we will be using the latest version of the document as shared by Kurt and herein attached, for today’s meeting. Many thanks to Kurt for preparing this document. Kind regards (with thanks to Susan for pointing this out!), David From: David Tait <david.tait@icann.org> Date: Friday, 16 September 2016 at 08:59 To: <gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Subject: Agenda for upcoming RPMs sub team Dear All Staff would like to propose the following agenda for today’s RPM TMCH sub team at 15:00 UTC meeting. (1) Completion of Review of comments related to Charter; (2) Completion of Review of List of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries to identify any gaps and additional questions; and (2) Update from Staff on data gathering. The latest draft of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries is attached to this email. Kind regards, David David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait@icann.org www.icann.org
Hi Kathy: During the last meeting of the RPM-TMCH sub-group we briefly discussed writing a letter to the TMCH to request their regular reports to ICANN. I mentioned that I could draft a request that you, as Chair, could send to the TMCH. That draft is below. If you choose to write to the Clearinghouse, you can edit the letter in any way you see fit. Any comments from anyone on this list would also be gratefully accepted and considered. Address the letter to: Vicky Folens <vfolens@deloitte.com> Peter Van De Wielle <peter.van.de.wielle@chip.lu> Here is the letter, let me know if you have any questions as to why I assembled it in this way: Dear Vicky and Peter: I am writing to you as Co-Chair of the ICANN policy working group that is reviewing the RPM mechanisms and, in particular, as Chair of a sub-group that is seeking data to support the work of the RPM review. It will not come as a surprise that we recognize that the Trademark Clearinghouse might have access to meaningful data that is relatively easy to obtain so long as it has not been determined to be confidential. ICANN staff members have been able to provide data that has been published through presentations by you and others at ICANN meetings and other venues. But that data covers only certain periods of time that were addressed by those presentations. We are aware that the Clearinghouse provides regular data reports to ICANN. We are writing to request that the TMCH make those reports available to our working group (with confidential data redacted if need be). The data can be made available in any way convenient to you. We would rather see the reports rather than have you refine or synthesize the data in any way. It might seem strange that we are requesting access to reports without knowing the specific data in them or without providing you with specific data sets that would help answer our charter questions directly. Our thinking is that this data is rather easily obtained since it has already be collected and synthesized by you and is likely to be helpful in answering several of our questions. Therefore, we thought to ask for this “low hanging fruit” before making a deeper dive into specific data that might be harder to obtain. In the end, we think access to the reports will reduce our data requests afterwards, lessen the amount of work overall, and hasten the conclusion of our work. Please let me know how you view this request, any terms or qualifications to the release of the reports if that can be done, and any questions you might have. Of course, the entire ICANN community wants us to get on with this work so please respond in some way as quickly as possible. Thanks very much for considering this request. We look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Kathy Kleiman Kathy: I hope you find this helpful. Best regards, Kurt ________________ Kurt Pritz kurt@kjpritz.com +1.310.400.4184 Skype: kjpritz On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:22 PM, David Tait <david.tait@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All
Apologies for any confusion but just to confirm that we will be using the latest version of the document as shared by Kurt and herein attached, for today’s meeting. Many thanks to Kurt for preparing this document.
Kind regards (with thanks to Susan for pointing this out!),
David
From: David Tait <david.tait@icann.org> Date: Friday, 16 September 2016 at 08:59 To: <gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Subject: Agenda for upcoming RPMs sub team
Dear All Staff would like to propose the following agenda for today’s RPM TMCH sub team at 15:00 UTC meeting. (1) Completion of Review of comments related to Charter; (2) Completion of Review of List of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries to identify any gaps and additional questions; and (2) Update from Staff on data gathering.
The latest draft of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries is attached to this email. Kind regards,
David
David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait@icann.org www.icann.org <TMCH Sub Team list of questions - updated 15 Sept(comments)[1].docx>_______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-tmch mailing list Gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-tmch
A belated and big thank you to Kurt for drafting the letter to the TMCH below. My only change would be to revise it to come from all 3 Co-Chairs. Otherwise, it is perfect. Tx you, Kurt! Kathy On 9/21/2016 10:37 PM, Kurt Pritz wrote:
Hi Kathy:
During the last meeting of the RPM-TMCH sub-group we briefly discussed writing a letter to the TMCH to request their regular reports to ICANN. I mentioned that I could draft a request that you, as Chair, could send to the TMCH. That draft is below. If you choose to write to the Clearinghouse, you can edit the letter in any way you see fit. Any comments from anyone on this list would also be gratefully accepted and considered.
Address the letter to: Vicky Folens <vfolens@deloitte.com <mailto:vfolens@deloitte.com>> Peter Van De Wielle <peter.van.de.wielle@chip.lu <mailto:peter.van.de.wielle@chip.lu>>
Here is the letter, let me know if you have any questions as to why I assembled it in this way:
Dear Vicky and Peter:
I am writing to you as Co-Chair of the ICANN policy working group that is reviewing the RPM mechanisms and, in particular, as Chair of a sub-group that is seeking data to support the work of the RPM review.
It will not come as a surprise that we recognize that the Trademark Clearinghouse might have access to meaningful data that is relatively easy to obtain so long as it has not been determined to be confidential.
ICANN staff members have been able to provide data that has been published through presentations by you and others at ICANN meetings and other venues. But that data covers only certain periods of time that were addressed by those presentations.
We are aware that the Clearinghouse provides regular data reports to ICANN. We are writing to request that the TMCH make those reports available to our working group (with confidential data redacted if need be). The data can be made available in any way convenient to you. We would rather see the reports rather than have you refine or synthesize the data in any way.
It might seem strange that we are requesting access to reports without knowing the specific data in them or without providing you with specific data sets that would help answer our charter questions directly. Our thinking is that this data is rather easily obtained since it has already be collected and synthesized by you and is likely to be helpful in answering several of our questions. Therefore, we thought to ask for this “low hanging fruit” before making a deeper dive into specific data that might be harder to obtain. In the end, we think access to the reports will reduce our data requests afterwards, lessen the amount of work overall, and hasten the conclusion of our work.
Please let me know how you view this request, any terms or qualifications to the release of the reports if that can be done, and any questions you might have. Of course, the entire ICANN community wants us to get on with this work so please respond in some way as quickly as possible.
Thanks very much for considering this request. We look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Kathy Kleiman
Kathy: I hope you find this helpful.
Best regards,
Kurt
________________ Kurt Pritz kurt@kjpritz.com <mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com> +1.310.400.4184 Skype: kjpritz
On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:22 PM, David Tait <david.tait@icann.org <mailto:david.tait@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear All Apologies for any confusion but just to confirm that we will be using the latest version of the document as shared by Kurt and herein attached, for today’s meeting. Many thanks to Kurt for preparing this document. Kind regards (with thanks to Susan for pointing this out!),
David *From:*David Tait <david.tait@icann.org <mailto:david.tait@icann.org>> *Date:*Friday, 16 September 2016 at 08:59 *To:*<gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org>> *Cc:*Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> *Subject:*Agenda for upcoming RPMs sub team Dear All Staff would like to propose the following agenda for today’s RPM TMCH sub team at 15:00 UTC meeting. (1) Completion of Review of comments related to Charter; (2) Completion of Review of List of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries to identify any gaps and additional questions; and (2) Update from Staff on data gathering. The latest draft of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries is attached to this email. Kind regards, David David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait@icann.org <mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> <TMCH Sub Team list of questions - updated 15 Sept(comments)[1].docx>_______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-tmch mailing list Gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org <mailto:Gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-tmch
Agree that the letter is ready for Co-Chair signature. Apologies for missing today's call, but it somehow slipped off my calendar. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: gnso-rpm-tmch-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-tmch-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:18 PM To: Kurt Pritz Cc: gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-tmch] Request for TMCH data reports A belated and big thank you to Kurt for drafting the letter to the TMCH below. My only change would be to revise it to come from all 3 Co-Chairs. Otherwise, it is perfect. Tx you, Kurt! Kathy On 9/21/2016 10:37 PM, Kurt Pritz wrote: Hi Kathy: During the last meeting of the RPM-TMCH sub-group we briefly discussed writing a letter to the TMCH to request their regular reports to ICANN. I mentioned that I could draft a request that you, as Chair, could send to the TMCH. That draft is below. If you choose to write to the Clearinghouse, you can edit the letter in any way you see fit. Any comments from anyone on this list would also be gratefully accepted and considered. Address the letter to: Vicky Folens <vfolens@deloitte.com<mailto:vfolens@deloitte.com>> Peter Van De Wielle <peter.van.de.wielle@chip.lu<mailto:peter.van.de.wielle@chip.lu>> Here is the letter, let me know if you have any questions as to why I assembled it in this way: Dear Vicky and Peter: I am writing to you as Co-Chair of the ICANN policy working group that is reviewing the RPM mechanisms and, in particular, as Chair of a sub-group that is seeking data to support the work of the RPM review. It will not come as a surprise that we recognize that the Trademark Clearinghouse might have access to meaningful data that is relatively easy to obtain so long as it has not been determined to be confidential. ICANN staff members have been able to provide data that has been published through presentations by you and others at ICANN meetings and other venues. But that data covers only certain periods of time that were addressed by those presentations. We are aware that the Clearinghouse provides regular data reports to ICANN. We are writing to request that the TMCH make those reports available to our working group (with confidential data redacted if need be). The data can be made available in any way convenient to you. We would rather see the reports rather than have you refine or synthesize the data in any way. It might seem strange that we are requesting access to reports without knowing the specific data in them or without providing you with specific data sets that would help answer our charter questions directly. Our thinking is that this data is rather easily obtained since it has already be collected and synthesized by you and is likely to be helpful in answering several of our questions. Therefore, we thought to ask for this "low hanging fruit" before making a deeper dive into specific data that might be harder to obtain. In the end, we think access to the reports will reduce our data requests afterwards, lessen the amount of work overall, and hasten the conclusion of our work. Please let me know how you view this request, any terms or qualifications to the release of the reports if that can be done, and any questions you might have. Of course, the entire ICANN community wants us to get on with this work so please respond in some way as quickly as possible. Thanks very much for considering this request. We look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Kathy Kleiman Kathy: I hope you find this helpful. Best regards, Kurt ________________ Kurt Pritz kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com> +1.310.400.4184 Skype: kjpritz On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:22 PM, David Tait <david.tait@icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org>> wrote: Dear All Apologies for any confusion but just to confirm that we will be using the latest version of the document as shared by Kurt and herein attached, for today's meeting. Many thanks to Kurt for preparing this document. Kind regards (with thanks to Susan for pointing this out!), David From: David Tait <david.tait@icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 16 September 2016 at 08:59 To: <gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Subject: Agenda for upcoming RPMs sub team Dear All Staff would like to propose the following agenda for today's RPM TMCH sub team at 15:00 UTC meeting. (1) Completion of Review of comments related to Charter; (2) Completion of Review of List of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries to identify any gaps and additional questions; and (2) Update from Staff on data gathering. The latest draft of Questions for TMCH Providers, Registrars and Registries is attached to this email. Kind regards, David David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait@icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> <TMCH Sub Team list of questions - updated 15 Sept(comments)[1].docx>_______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-tmch mailing list Gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-tmch ________________________________ No virus found in this message. 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