Hi Greg, 

Just one clarification on your statement below

If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine.  However, that does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits.  Of course, I may be reading too much into things.  

As you know, the GNSO council has many PDP WG’s moving forward and it is very helpful to the work of the Council for the Councilor that has the expertise and interest in the subject matter to volunteer as Liaison.    Councilors all pick the subject matter PDP that we are familiar with.    I do not view the Liaison role to be a stepping stone to the Chair position but a long term interest and desire to work on topics most relevant to the constituency/stakeholder group we represent.    I was in the same situation as Phil when I was nominated for a leadership role in the RDS PDP.    I do not think the Liaison role gives Phil an advantage or disadvantage in seeking a leadership role in this PDP.    But as a matter of process he must step down from the Liaison role if he takes on the leadership role just as I did.  

I do think you are reading to much into things…
Susan Kawaguchi
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From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>
Reply-To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:04 AM
To: Jonathan Frost <jonathan@get.club>
Cc: Zahid Jamil-IG via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team

I think the balance issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair from the Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.

If we are talking about "formal" representation, both J. Scott and Phil are members of the Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say that Phil, but not J. Scott, represents "business interests."  On an informal or "de facto" level, J Scott tends to represent (or at least stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP is a significant asset, while Phil represents (and actually does represent) the interests of domain investors (a very specific sector of the business community for whom IP is, at best, not a significant asset). As such, Phil's perspectives are far more aligned with those represented by Kathy, and that is the imbalance to which I refer. 

My suggested configuration was intended to find a role for all 3 volunteers, while maintaining some sort of balance.  If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine.  However, that does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits.  Of course, I may be reading too much into things.  

I'd like to stress that I have the highest respect, and even affection, for all 3 volunteers, and for their contributions to ICANN over the years.  But the configuration of our leadership team has to take other things into account.

Greg 


On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:

I tend to agree that there might be balance issues in that  the non-contracted party house would have three representatives and the contracted party house would have none.

 

I think a viable option would be to  Phil as the Chair, J. Scott and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a third vice chair from the contracted party house, to balance the equation.

 

Jonathan

 

 

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I have some concerns with this configuration in terms of balance (and related concerns about the accuracy of Volker's categorizations, on both the "formal" and de facto levels).  As such I would instead suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs, with Phil remaining in the role of GNSO Liaison (the primary role to which Phil was already appointed).

 

Greg Shatan

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:

Also agree with Volker's suggestion. 

 

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Gabriela Szlak via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> wrote:

​+ 1 to Volker.

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2016-04-12 10:24 GMT-03:00 Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>:

Hi all,

with the list of nominations and seconds that we have right now (and provided we will not get any last minute nominations), it looks like Phil, Scott and Kathy have the most support. While none of these candidates represent contracted parties, I do not see this as a problem, as I have great faith in the neutrality of all candidates.

With Phil formally representing business interests, Scott the IP concerns and Kathy the non commercial users, I propose we consider a triumvirate, maybe with one chair and two co/vice-chairs, with Phil as chair and Scott and Kathy as co-chairs.

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